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    I don't understand how that does not sound legit? Are you just not reading this properly? Seriously, Pugger >.>

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    How long has dogmad been a member here? Has she ever mentioned these problems before? Surely, a dog and cat with the same problems (which is odd to begin with) that are so severe, she would be trying to get advice about before weeks down the track?

    She is concerned that they are drug effected, her reason is because ONE TIME her beloved friend who has passed, mentioned that she not only smoked dope but blew it in her pets faces (weird thing to just come out with one day to someone you are so close to). If you are close to someone, you know if they are dope smokers. I can pick them a mile off and so should dogmad seeing as her BROTHER is a drug addict. I also find it hard to believe that one would get someones pets after they pass, when they have not been on speaking terms.

    Those are the things which make me believe the story is untrue. I am not just reading it wrong. I am however pre menstrual been sick for a week and not knowing if I am coming or going (hence why I haven't been here much) and not in the mood for lies. I am sorry for being short with you dogmad, but I can't stand being lied to. If you are worried drugs are/have effected your pets, then you would be right.. drugs are going to effect them. They need more than a treadmill and they probably need medication if they are behaving that way.

    Over and out.
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    OMG haha SPRUNG!!!

    I knew mentioning her name in the thread would bring her back to look.

    So bloody predictable.

    Yes Aunt Ag you were right.


    *ETA- no dogmad this post isn't aimed at you*
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    I don't think blowing joint smoke into animals face can do mental damage. Unless...

    The most common route of exposure to pet animals is oral. Unfortunately, there have been cruelty cases involving smaller animals, such as a cat placed under a large bowl or bucket and someone blowing their used smoke in with the cat, exposing the pet to toxic levels of THC. In dogs, clinical signs develop within 30-90 minutes after ingestion and even faster with smoke. The effects of the THC may last up to 72 hours. The most common clinical signs of toxicosis in the dog include depression, ataxia, bradycardia (slow heart rate), hypothermia (low body temperatures), vocalization, mydriasis (dilated eyes), muscular incoordination, respiratory depression, hypersalivation, vomiting, diarrhea, urinary incontinence, seizures and coma. The most consistent clinical sign in dogs is central nervous depression, usually appearing as if the dog was falling asleep. Additional clinical signs that may be seen include hyperreflexia (exaggeration of the reflexes), hyperesthesia (increased sensation in the nerves of the skin), and nystagmus (rotation of the eyes). It is rare that a lethal dose is taken, although the period of depression may be prolonged.

    Diagnosis is based on clinical signs and a history of exposure. Unfortunately due to the illicit nature of the drug, a history of exposure is often not forthcoming. THC is difficult to detect in body fluids because of the low levels at which it is found in plasma. Urine testing early in the course of exposure may help confirm the diagnosis.

    In the absence of a history of exposure to marijuana, diagnosis may be confused with exposure to barbiturates or opioid drugs, various poisons, hypoglycemia, or even encephalitis.

    When the history of poisoning is forthcoming, the goal is to remove the drug from the digestive tract through the induction of vomiting followed by the use of activated charcoal to prevent absorption. Additional treatment is primarily supportive. Comatose animals are usually treated with IV fluids, treated for the hypothermia and are given valium to control seizures when present.
    Respect and you shall be respected. Animal is always right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    How long has dogmad been a member here? Has she ever mentioned these problems before? Surely, a dog and cat with the same problems (which is odd to begin with) that are so severe, she would be trying to get advice about before weeks down the track?

    She is concerned that they are drug effected, her reason is because ONE TIME her beloved friend who has passed, mentioned that she not only smoked dope but blew it in her pets faces (weird thing to just come out with one day to someone you are so close to). If you are close to someone, you know if they are dope smokers. I can pick them a mile off and so should dogmad seeing as her BROTHER is a drug addict. I also find it hard to believe that one would get someones pets after they pass, when they have not been on speaking terms.

    Those are the things which make me believe the story is untrue. I am not just reading it wrong. I am however pre menstrual been sick for a week and not knowing if I am coming or going (hence why I haven't been here much) and not in the mood for lies. I am sorry for being short with you dogmad, but I can't stand being lied to. If you are worried drugs are/have effected your pets, then you would be right.. drugs are going to effect them. They need more than a treadmill and they probably need medication if they are behaving that way.

    Over and out.
    You're right I have been a memeber for a couple of weeks and never brought it up, because this is exactly what I was worried about. People jumping to conclusions. I also had a very sick dog that I was worried about so Hollie was not my biggest issue at that moment. She has been like this for months now so it's not like by posting her issue a couple of weeks earlier would have given me magical answers on how to fix her. I now realise that I worded my first post wrongly, I should have explain myself a bit better, but if I was to tell you the whole story of our friend and her animals I would still be here next year plus I don't think I need to put every detail up here and make our friend look bad. I never said a treadmill would fix her but we were advised to get training for her and a treadmill would be plenty of exercise for our dogs until I sorted out another walker for them (which by the way has been sorted today) I thought that people would be helpful and alot have been but for one person to do this it ruins it. I don't appreciate being told I'm lieing, talking crap, drug using and abusing my animals by someone that has never met me or knows anything about me. I simply posted Hollie's problem because our vets and trainers all say it is unusual and I thought that perhaps someone had heard about this before. I think I will keep to the professionals to help with Hollie's issues from now on and only stay in this forum for the fun stuff. Pugger just because you have had a bad week does not mean you should destroy someone elses.
    Thank you to everyone who supported me and posted helpful hints. I have now found a specialist for Hollie who is going to work with us on her issues.

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    I am glad you are getting some specialised help. Good luck.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I am glad you are getting some specialised help. Good luck.
    Thankyou I have taken Hollie to meet the lady today and she has heard of this before and worked with a few dogs with the same issues. Hollie seemed to like her and she was great to the Hollie.

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    I haven't posted because I've never had any experence with a dog like Hollie.

    I'd just like to say good luck with her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    You've just described a good number of Pugs!

    What you're describing sounds like a normal dog to be honest, with a little bit of anxiety perhaps and poor socialisation.

    Levels of intelligence vary tremendously in dogs, just as it does in humans. What you might consider to be a lack of intelligence maybe simply a stubborn dog or ineffective training.

    Licking is sometimes associated with stress and it can become then become an ingrained habit, much like a human might chew their fingernails or smoke.
    I understand all that and Hollie has been tested for alot of things. She was poorly socialised when we got her but I assure you she is no longer. I know that licking is a sign of strees I have research this over and over and only posted here as a last resort. Hollie has now been to someone who has dealt with dogs that have been drug effected and she has also said that Hollie shows all the signs of it. It might not sound so bad in my post but if you met her you would know what I mean this isn't like a stressed or anxious dog, I have had a couple of them in the past, there is something else causing it. Her training has not been ineffective because my other dogs have been with the same trainers and seemed to pick things up easily. I am glad that we found someone who might be able to help Hollie and I think we might finally get somewhere with her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogmad View Post
    We have a 3 year old maltese x ****zu, Hollie, who we took in when an old friend took her own life. We also took in her cat. (he has the same issues as Hollie, as explained below)
    When our friend was still around she told us once that she smoked marijuana (sp?) and would blow it in the dog and cats faces, needless to say I told her that it wasn't good for the animals health and we stopped talking to each other. Now we have had Hollie for 8 months and she simply cannot learn a thing, not even a simple command like sit. It is becoming quite frustrating, we have had her to trainers all of which have asked us if she ever had trauma to the head. She also has strange habits, like licking people and objects over and over even when you push her away and say no she just can't stop and she always jumps on people and also has a very severe attachment to 1 particular toy.
    I was just wondering if anyone else has ever heard of drug damaged dogs and if there is anything you can do to help them???

    The severe attachment to 1 particular toy is caused by stress from loss. My Ralph was totally attached to one toy when his mate Zook was killed. He still has an attachment to the same toy (mind you, we keep buying the exact replica, we have gone through a lot over the years). If Ralph doesn't have his favourite toy, he gets anxious and stressed and whines alot. The continual licking is a nervous complaint. With the THC, haven't a clue!

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