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    I am interested in hearing ppl's opinion about the veterinary support they have in their area, and/or their opinion about vets overall. I don't want this to be argumentive, but an open discussion. Most often (not talking specifically about this forum) when one tries to seek help online the only answer they get is "take it to vet". While some ppl think you don't care if you don't go vet, others are quite anti-vet but still love and care for their animals. Some ppl may not be able to afford the vet. While it is a responsibility you accept upon taking an animal into care, there are times when ppl will stumble across some hardship, and for a pet to become ill at these times makes it feel that much worse knowing your pet needs medical help but you can't afford the vet but need something. Vets are expensive and can be more expensive than it needs to be, especially if one starts carting their pets off to the vet at every scratch or sniffle they pick up. I have no faith in the vets in my area so I travel 140KM (return trip) to seek veterinary attention for my snakes, and Asher will go there too. I will never compromise his health but I am one who likes to post up and learn about my dog's problems and hopefully find a remedy that won't require vet treatment if possible. But if a home treatment isn't working, how long do you give it, before you decide its time to see a vet? Every situation will give you a different answer.

    Anyway, let us know you opinion on vets in general. Vets are important, I will never deny that. But are ppl wrong for wanting to seek help here, or anywhere before they consider going to the vets?
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    [QUOTE=mydogau;65246]I am interested in hearing ppl's opinion about the veterinary support they have in their area, and/or their opinion about vets overall. I don't want this to be argumentive, but an open discussion. Most often (not talking specifically about this forum) when one tries to seek help online the only answer they get is "take it to vet". While some ppl think you don't care if you don't go vet, others are quite anti-vet but still love and care for their animals. Some ppl may not be able to afford the vet. While it is a responsibility you accept upon taking an animal into care, there are times when ppl will stumble across some hardship, and for a pet to become ill at these times makes it feel that much worse knowing your pet needs medical help but you can't afford the vet but need something. Vets are expensive and can be more expensive than it needs to be, especially if one starts carting their pets off to the vet at every scratch or sniffle they pick up. I have no faith in the vets in my area so I travel 140KM (return trip) to seek veterinary attention for my snakes, and Asher will go there too. I will never compromise his health but I am one who likes to post up and learn about my dog's problems and hopefully find a remedy that won't require vet treatment if possible. But if a home treatment isn't working, how long do you give it, before you decide its time to see a vet? Every situation will give you a different answer.

    Anyway, let us know you opinion on vets in general. Vets are important, I will never deny that. But are ppl wrong for wanting to seek help here, or anywhere before they consider going to the vets?[/QUOTE]

    To answer the highlighted part first - no, of course that's not wrong. Anybody in their right mind who owns and cares for a dog wants to learn as much as they possibly can illness wise to help ascertain what is possibly happening to their dog, and when to call the vet, and when not to.

    Everybody is different. Everybody has different levels of experience, or knowledge. For example, as dog has diahhorrea. That could be a sign of Parvovirus, but it could also mean the dog ate something it probably shouldn't have. Many members here have a lifetime of expereince. No one is professing to be a vet. What would that matter anyway - vets get it wrong sometimes too, just like everybody.

    I personally find one of the vet surgeries here really good. I do not wait if I need to see a vet, they are thorough, very knowledgable. Some of the others here aren't IMO, so I don't go there.

    I also think it's like doctors. Some ppl rush off to the doctors if they bloody sneeze. Drives doctors up the wall. Some ppl are like that with vets too, drives them up the wall. I mean a vet really doesn't need to see your dog because the dog didn't eat his steak diane last night FGS!

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    I have to say that vets are not my favourite people. I know that this sounds strange but I meet very few that have my full confidence and when I do they have my highest respect and I will pay them whatever they want.

    When it comes to litters and any difficulties experienced in that area I always consult my fellow breeders advice first and often take their advice over that of a vet.

    A vet that has my confidence is one that will phone me back and discuss what is wrong and give me their honest opinion based on what I have been able to tell them over the phone. I don't want to talk to the receptionist because naturally they will say you'd best bring the animal in because they cannot advise any differently.

    But a vet that will spare you a few minutes on the phone, and doesn't come across as "just taking your money"; will help you build up a general first aid kit and doesn't treat us all like idiots is someone non of us can do without.

    I think regards the forum, it is very hard to type what you want to say sometimes, so like the receptionist the safest course is to say "take it to the vet", and in a lot of instances that's what you have to do if you don't want a long drawn out recovery as might well be the case with a hot spot if you do not have access to the necessary drugs to clear up the bacterial infection. Is it life threatening no, so I'm happy to say try this or that because you supplied a pretty clear picture.

    Sorry I rambled on.

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    Vets are like doctors, when you find a good one whom you trust and treats you like an equal, don't let them go.

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    I've just re-read my post and am sorry if I sounded offensive.

    I used the hot spot as an example because I thought it a good one. It's not life threatening but in all honesty it's gotten to the stage where (I believe) the infection probably needs to be treated with drugs and the area clipped.

    Also I think knowing your dog really well and observing them to know when something is out of the ordinary in regards their behaviour is when I press the panic/vet button.

    For example with whippets I've had some huge gashes but the dog is happy in itself so I will treat and bandage the area and wait until a sensible time/hour to take the dog to the vet. I also have the confidence of my vet so that he supplies me with antibiotics for such things so that infection doesn't set in.

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    You didn't sound offensive at all. It was good, constructive advice you wrote there. I do have cortozone tablets for Asher's hotspot now, and also treating with betadine.

    I don't know Asher all that well yet as I've had him for just two weeks. But he seems frightened of me looking at the area so to get near him with clippers, I don't think so. But will give it a shot and see what happens. He is happy in himself, plays, eats, and acting usual, actually since I started the cortozone last night (after my post) I haven't seen him scratching it so hopefully its working already.

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    I'm glad Asher is on the mend.

    It's always hard with a new dog, they are under stress and you also do not know them fully yet. Stress lowers the immune system and can play havoc on a dogs health.

    Or if the dog is very young or very old, because they don't have the strength and or immune system to combat simple illnesses etc, & what you think may be a minor problem can escalate very quickly.

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    I thought Betadine could ruin the nerve endings when applied to open sores...making it harder for them to heal?!?

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    Clea, have never heard that about betadine before, and I've used it plenty of times!

    mydog, there is no hard and fast answer to your question, I agree with everything that people have posted so far, but I think it also comes down to the individual's experience with animals. For example, I've seen many many things with dogs, and feel that I have enough experience to know when to seek a vet's advice or whether to try to treat myself before seeking professional help. I take it on a case by case basis. However, with a first time or inexperienced dog owner I think it's better to seek professional advice rather than wait. Certainly no harm in asking on a forum, but to me things like parvo or paralysis ticks are not things you much around with waiting for responses, and that's assuming the owner knows what they are! Then you have the other side of things, and we had a perfect example recently, where one of our younger members was worried about a rash on her dog, came on in a panic about it late at night, and before the more experienced members could tell her to calm down etc, another member who had not even HAD a dog immediately replied the dog needed to see a vet immediately, sending the poor person into a mad panic unnecessarily.

    You've asked a great question, but really how can it be answered? I think it's more to do with the owner's commonsense, and them knowing their limits.

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    There will always be someone on the internet forum who will say "take your dog to the vet"

    We had one thread where someone asked about itchy spots on the dog's tummy and someone else said effectively - wake your parents up and go to the vet right now (Sunday night, I think it was). STUPID STUPID RESPONSE. The dog wasn't gushing blood and wasn't having any trouble breathing... wait till Monday morning if you must disturb a vet.

    I think most people who have done a basic first aid course learn to prioritise various types of injuries and sicknesses - which ones require immediate attention and which ones do not. The same criteria would apply to the dog.

    Personally I can't afford the time or money to take my dog to the vet every time she gets an itchy tummy or gooey eyes or runny poo. There are basic causes and treatments for each of these - and if they don't start getting better when the cause is removed and basic treatment started, then maybe go to the vet, during regular working hours on a week day.

    I've got good phone service from my vets, eg when I rang about Frosty getting a bee sting on the nose - ie remove sting (already done), apply cool facewasher and/or ice - if she'll let me, and keep an eye on it, if her eyes start to swell shut or she has difficulty breathing - then bring her to the vet. No problem and no need to take up a vet's time either.

    Everyone has to exercise their own common sense when it comes to asking internet forums about medical problems and which advice they accept and which they reject, because you will get everything from really good, really stupid, "I don't know" and every possibility in between.

    If your pet is bleeding copiously and/or having trouble breathing and not behaving at all normally - don't be typing on your computer.

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