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    Ok this is a long one...

    Rocky has always had a sensitive stomach, so I'm always careful about what he eats and his treats etc. Anyway, he's normally fine for a week or so, and then he'll have one day where he just wont eat, he'll throw up, and he'll have diarrhea or a really soft stool (yeah, I know, yuck..sorry..). So took him to the vet and explained that this happens pretty regularly, he'll be all good, and then one day he'll be sick all day, and then he'll be fine again. So the vet put him on a prescription diet, and he's been fine until today!

    He just slept all day, and when we had dinner we usually have to tell him to stay away from the table etc, but he came up, had a look, and just went and lay down again. Took him for a little walk to get some air, and he was really well behaved, not pulling at all (unusual for him) and then he stopped to do poo (great, love it when he does that on his walks NOT) and it was diarrhea.. even better.... anyway, got him home, and he had a little drink, not much, but still didnt want to eat anything, then went and layed back down.

    Im just worried because it happens alot! Today is the worst he has been though, he's never just wanted to lay around all day, and hes never had diarrhea that bad. Im taking him to the vet on friday to get stitches out (from being desexed) so I'll tell them again, but I just have no idea what it could be?

    As far as I know, he hasnt eaten anything that he shouldnt have. The only thing I can think of is that at training yesterday I gave him some roast turkey as treats, but he didnt have all that much!? and he was fine last night and hadnt thrown up during the night. He did throw up a couple times at around 3ish, but it was just (ive forgotten what the vet called it) - there was nothing in it, it was just kinda... foamy? and only a little bit

    Ok, REALLY sorry for the lenght of this post, and REALLY sorry if it doesnt make sense, just wanted to add eveything in, I dont think ive forgotten anything... So what could it be? or what should I ask the vet to look at?

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    RR, how many times a day are you feeding him?

    It sounds to me like he simply does not have the correct flora in his digestive system. There are easy remedies to fix that. Perhaps when you go to the vet on Friday you could ask them about some Flora powder in a bottle for gastro? Given daily, it helps put all the right stuff back into his gut and gives him the ability to allow his digestive juices to work correctly.

    Another thing, if dogs gorge their food, they will vomit. Sometimes it can be many hours later. Hence my question about how many meals per day?
    Often giving smaller more frequent meals will fix that problem.

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    Have you tried some natural yoghurt for him? It might help on the flora of the bowels and stomach.

    DA said what I wanted to say...if you have a dog that inhales his food...that could serious upset his tummy. The foamy stuff he is vomiting up is stomach juices and acid.

    If you feed kibble and your dog inhales his food...it arrives in the stomach all at once and THEN start to expand. If you haven't already tried to put a piece of kibble in some water...try it and you will see how big it gets. This can lead to stomach upsets and also Bloat...which is deadly very quickly!

    ETA.....have you talked to your doctor about him being allergic to some of the ingredients in the foods? Could he be eating some plant/flowers on your yard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    It sounds like he may have the dog equivelant of irritable bowel or it could be an actual food intolernace of some sort perhaps?

    Either way, it sounds like he is in pain off and on and is miserable with it, so he needs to go to the Vet for further examination and testing.
    yeah...it sounds like that to me too.

    That is the way Sumo started and then ended up with bleeding from his intestines and bowel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleasanta View Post
    yeah...it sounds like that to me too.

    That is the way Sumo started and then ended up with bleeding from his intestines and bowel.
    Yes, I've seen that a lot and agree with you. Doesn't sound nice. It can appear to have rectified itself, or even with anitbiotics will get better, but sometimes only for a while. Flares up again and again as the underlying problem causing it isn't fixed.

    I'm sorry that happened to Sumo - it is seriously not nice!!!

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    DA: I feed him twice a day, morning and night. I give 2 cups in the morning and 3 and 1/4 at night. Thanks, I will ask about the Flora powder.

    Clea: I have given him natural yoghurt before, and he loves it, I just didnt want to overdo it, but maybe I'll start to introduce it on a regular basis. As for eating someting in the backyard, there isnt really much for him to eat! but he's always picking up something! Always try to keep the yard clean but theres only so much I can do, one gust of wind and the yard is filthy (damn fence has a gap in the bottom of it)

    Also, Clea, so sorry to hear what Sumo went through thats terrible. Did this bleeding show up in the stool?

    Thanks heaps guys, gives me some stuff to ask the vet

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRidge View Post
    DA: I feed him twice a day, morning and night. I give 2 cups in the morning and 3 and 1/4 at night. Thanks, I will ask about the Flora powder.

    Clea: I have given him natural yoghurt before, and he loves it, I just didnt want to overdo it, but maybe I'll start to introduce it on a regular basis. As for eating someting in the backyard, there isnt really much for him to eat! but he's always picking up something! Always try to keep the yard clean but theres only so much I can do, one gust of wind and the yard is filthy (damn fence has a gap in the bottom of it)

    Also, Clea, so sorry to hear what Sumo went through thats terrible. Did this bleeding show up in the stool?

    Thanks heaps guys, gives me some stuff to ask the vet
    Oh yes...his poop was bright red...with slime in it and very runny. It has stopped now since we feed him raw, fresh food. He NEVER gets ANY type of processed foods anymore. He is on raw meat and bones with special vegie mix and supplements.

    ETA...I give natural yoghurt every day to help with bowel balance

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    Rocky's was kind of slimey from time to time, but last time I went to the vet they also gave some powder to put on his food... I cant think of the name now off the top of my head, and that stopped it from being slimey

    I'll keep switching to raw foods in mind. I just want to make sure that he gets the proper balance of everything he needs. I guess I have some research to do! He'll be happy about getting more yoghurt at least!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RockyRidge View Post
    DA: I feed him twice a day, morning and night. I give 2 cups in the morning and 3 and 1/4 at night. Thanks, I will ask about the Flora powder.

    Clea: I have given him natural yoghurt before, and he loves it, I just didnt want to overdo it, but maybe I'll start to introduce it on a regular basis. As for eating someting in the backyard, there isnt really much for him to eat! but he's always picking up something! Always try to keep the yard clean but theres only so much I can do, one gust of wind and the yard is filthy (damn fence has a gap in the bottom of it)

    Also, Clea, so sorry to hear what Sumo went through thats terrible. Did this bleeding show up in the stool?

    Thanks heaps guys, gives me some stuff to ask the vet
    You won't overdo the yoghurt, give it daily if the dog has funny tummy. However, better than yoghurt is PAW Pro biotic powder, available from the vet (only). I use this on all the rescues as you can imagine some come in with really ordinary tummies. Couldn't recommend it high enough. I use yoghurt as a maintanence type of pro biotic, I use the pro biotic on the really needy dogs.

    Clea, sorry to hear my other staffy had to go through this. Bella permanently has funny tummy and LIVES on pro biotic - daily. She has never had blood in her stools, but without the powder, I can't stay in the same room as her of an evening.

    Also Pet Ark (google it) has a pro biotic formula. I LOVE Pet ark products
    SPR fosters:Rowland, Matrix, Mia, Arizona, Romeo, Wrinkles, George, Molly, Su Lin, Ellie, Charlie, Charlotte, Lulu, Montana http://www.sharpeirescue.com.au

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    PAW probiotic!!! thats the powder im giving him! 1 heaped teaspoon a day for the last 2 weeks. Its been helping up until yesterday, but this seems to be something different.

    Ahh. its hard to tell at the moment if hes the same today as he was yesterday, as this is his usual nap time. He seemed a little more active earlier, but still not quite right. I'll keep an eye on him

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