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    I have gone through the forums and read a few threads about pros and cons of early desexing and waiting. Just would like to ask some questions and get your advice.

    For the larger dog breeds do you rec early or late desex?
    Or does the size of the dog have no bearing on the choice?
    What age do they generally go into heat?

    I have read through some things online and they say it can interupt growth/maturity. I don't want to hinder any development to either of the pups but I don't want to have a dog in heat either.

    tia

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    Hi Tia,

    The following is all my opinion only. You will find facts from avenues and experts everywhere supporting both sides of the story. Like always it comes down to what/who you choose to believe, and in all honesty, what is most suitable to you.

    I believe it does matter what breed they are, and certainly matters if they are one of the larger/giant breeds of dog.
    Larger/giant breeds develop at a slower rate, as in they have so far to travel size wise from puppy to maturity, so to speak. Therefore, it is usually recommeded that larger/giant breeds be de-sexed at a later age than most other smaller breeds. Some ppl choose to do it at around the 9-10 month old stage, yet others will put it off, handle a season/s carefully, and only desex at 18-24 months stage.

    I believe it can interrupt growth/maturity, but some ppl prefer to take that risk than the risk of an unwanted pregnancy and the hassles of a bitch in heat. It is a never-ending debate really...

    The age each bitch goes into season differs not only from breed to breed, but also from dog to dog. I have known bitches who came into their first season before 6 months, and bitches who didn't come into their season until nearly 12 months.
    Usually though, for a great majority of the small/average sized breeds, if you desex at around 6 months of age, it can be expected that you will avoid any first season. I do say expected, as pointed out - all dogs are diffferent.

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    Thanks for your response, my names is rebecca by the way lol tia = thanks in advance

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    Aw sheet, and I'm a total goofball, obviously!!!

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    AWL (Animal Welfare League) will desex, from 8 weeks of age, every puppy/dog they think they can get rehomed.

    Frosty - a medium sized blue heeler x - was desexed at 8 weeks and there have been no problems so far. She doesn't mark over other dogs' pee - bonus. She still likes to sniff but doesn't copy the other dogs marking over.

    Di Dee can vouch for a six month old puppy (Pretty), going into heat & getting pregnant. So if you're not going to desex early, that's something to watch out for. There is also birth control pills for bitches - which will stop the dog from going on heat, so if you need to delay for any reason - you could put the bitch on the pill.

    IANAV (I am not a vet) but I've heard boy dogs can be done very young (from 8 weeks) and desexing them helps reduce humping and marking, the earlier the better as far as that goes.

    Desexing also prevents or reduces the risk of some health problems but may increase the risk of some other health problems, in both sexes - you'd need a vet's advice on that or more internet research.

    Some vets won't desex a puppy until it is 6 months old, and some will do it younger. You'd need to ask the vet why. AWL could probably provide some info on the risks of early desexing. They've got good reason for doing that though.

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    The smaller the dog the earlier they mature and therefore the earlier they come into season.

    I have bred both Kelpies and Whippets. All my kelpies came into season around the 11 months of age for the first time.

    My Gordon Setter a large dog, although not heavy set, she is 30kg came into season at 13 months.

    I had been told that whippets and hounds in general are late to come into season, around 15 months of age. Mine blew that theory out of the water with one coming into season at 10 months.

    I don't believe there is any problem with de-sexing a SWF type of dog around the 5 mths and your medium dogs around 7/8 months but as there are always exceptions to the rule your do run the risk.

    However if you take on one of the larger dogs it would be my preference to let them have a season first.

    Lock them away. I have had entire bitches and dogs all my life and never had an unwanted/unplanned litter. But you have to be tough and keep them in an enclosed area.
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    I deffinately don't want a litter:/ I would like to desex both the male and female as soon as its good for them.

    I will have a discussion with my vet soon and get their opinion too, just from the short time on this forum I have seen the knowledge/experience and wanted some personal opinions i have had dogs since I was born but this is the first time having a giant breed and first time with me being an adult. (my german shepard was desexed when i was 15 so mum dealt with that all - should of paid more attention i guess)

    My husband has made plans to make a dog enclosure in our yard so that may the way to go if we end up leaving her to have her first heat. They are inside dogs though mainly so that will be tough love.

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    I think when you desex large/giant breeds too early...they tend to not mature the same way. With that I mean...they don't "bulk" out...re boofy heads...nice chests...bulky bodies.

    Rottweilers that have been desexed early REALLY show this...their heads look "skinny"...chests look underdeveloped...bodies are not as nice looking and bulky.

    The testosterone in the males and the oestrogen in the females mature them and when you desex really early...they do not have a rush of their sex hormones.

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    My personal opinion is to wait til they are physically mature, but having one of each sex makes that a bit harder when the girl comes into season, but not impossible. If you choose to wait a bit longer you'll need to be well prepared. Best wishes whichever way you go.

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    Just watch her carefully. Some bitches are extremely clean and can deceive the novice owner as to when they exactly started. So you think they've just come in when in fact that are "right" in and very receptive to males.

    Check if you see them taking an unusual interest in their rear end, glance at the ground and check when they get up from resting. Are they a bit more cranky/moody, has their coat thickened, are they eating more. Have they become sooky. This is just some of the signs that your dog may or may not go thru.

    I keep a diary for my dogs tracking everything.

    It is always worth checking with your breeder when their dogs usually come into season, as some lines come in earlier than others.

    For instance I will advise my puppies owners to have them desexed at 6/7 months of age as the mother was an early starter. I also don't think early desexing will have any ill effect on a Whippet.
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