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    Oh no, I was so NOT wanting read that Bella had had another fit. My guess is that he'll put her on phenobarb and then it's a case of monitoring and subsequent adjustment. The valium will keep her calm and relaxed. Put her somewhere quiet out of the way of any hustle and bustle that's going on.

    Poor baby...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreysAreGreat View Post
    Oh no, I was so NOT wanting read that Bella had had another fit. My guess is that he'll put her on phenobarb and then it's a case of monitoring and subsequent adjustment. The valium will keep her calm and relaxed. Put her somewhere quiet out of the way of any hustle and bustle that's going on.

    Poor baby...
    Yes GAG that is the meds he referred to on the phone. Feeling rather devistated atm and won't let her out of my sight. I gues this obsessiveness will pass when we stabilise her on meds.

    I would like the details of the groups for epilepsy please Anne if it is not too much trouble. I am so grateful for the information you have posted as re-reading these posts has helped me get it back together this afternoon.

    ETA: And I must say her heart rate rose dramatically while she was fitting, I could feel it as I was holding her close.

    Bugger.
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    I had a human friend with epilepsy. She could usually feel it coming on - like an aura or something. It was definitely brought on by stress. She had one in the passenger seat of my car, after I'd parked. She'd told me beforehand what to do which was essentially, make sure she can't hurt herself (easy when she's seatbelted in the car seat), wait till the fit is over, then take her home. And do not call the ambulance. Apparently that really sucks getting taken to hospital.

    What she didn't tell me was for the first 20 minutes or so, she would be completely disorientated, she wouldn't remember who she was, or who I was or where home was, or why she was where she was, or where she was or anything. So it was a matter of talking to her calmly, reminding her who I was, who she was, etc and not forcing her to do anything she didn't want (like the ambulance).

    But we got through it ok. The night out was a total write off but I learned a lot. Video at home would have been a much better idea than going to the cinema in our case because of a previous bad experience - hence the stress I suppose.

    So I imagine a dog that had just had a fit, wouldn't remember much about its life either and definitely feel disorientated and freaked out for a while after.

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    Yeh Hyc, she was definately disorientated. Oh my poor baby girl, I just can't deal with this one as well as everything else atm. I really have to putt myself together and just get through to Monday morning. Can't see a lot of sleep between now and then.

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    Thanks Anne, I was somewhat freaked out when I posted yesterday. And I am sure you are right, we will get used to it somewhat. As to triggers, I wouldn't even hazzard to guess as each time she has been calm and resting peacefully beside me, so go figure.

    Yes her heartrate was certainly a worry, I was calm at the time and holding her speaking quietly and gently to her but I could feel her heart almost jumping out of her skin, as you well know.

    My plan is to have her at the vet by 7.30am tomorrow (have to have Inka in for desex by 9am anyway), so we shall sit and wait our turn to commence her meds.

    Thanks for the advise re: keep her cool, this hadn't occured to us before, but will do in future, and thanks for the web links
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    Amanda

    My oldest son suffered from epilepsy. He developed this after receiving his MMR vaccine at school. It was devastating witnessing his first grand mal seizure Marc would stop breathing during his seizures and the only way I could snap him out of them was to cool his body down with cloths and cold water on his chest.

    Marc's seizures were never triggered by any type of stimuli per se like flashy lights and stuff. He would get the feeling in his chest like he was on a rollercoaster and you get the adrenalin rush and he know...in 5 secs...he would be on the floor. It often gave him enough time to sit down, so he wouldn't smack his head on the concrete.

    Marc suffered from 3 different types of seizures. The grand mal which were triggered by his partial seizures (right sided) and then he would just get small ones (up to 20 a day) that would affect his right arm and hand, but he was still awake and those ones didn't alter his state of consciousness. Marc grand mal (tonic clonic) seizures would happen when he was sleeping or upon waking up...they would also happen if he had a fever or streptococcus infection.

    Marc was a walking zombie on all his medications. He took Epilim to control partial seizues (because they triggered his Grand Mal seizures) and then he took Tegretol to try and control the Grand Mal seizures.

    Marc is now 21...he is not on any medications anymore. He doesn't have seizures per se, but sometimes when he is overworked...has been sick etc he still gets some "turns" on his right arm.

    I used to sleep in the same room as Marc....I was petrified that he would get a seizure and I would not hear him. I found him one night on my bedroom floor...he couldn't use his legs and it was ovbious he had had a seizure. He had crawled to my bedroom, because he needed to use the toilet, but he couldn't stand up.

    One time after a grand mall seizure...he was rushed to hospital and they were pumping medications into him, but couldn't stop the seizures. It took 8 hours...EEG's...brain scan etc etc and finally he stopped seizing again.

    Don't lose hope with Bella. Marc's epilepsy was REALLY bad, but he has a good life now...without medications. He is working...enjoying life

    Am I worried...of course I am, because I know it can return in a flash. I have educated his girlfriend and said...with Marc you MUST call an ambulance. He stops breathing, so you have NO other choice! Gently hold him and turn him on his side, so he doesn't choke should he vomit.

    We do what we have to do to survive. We can worry ourselves sick and trust me...I know all about that

    I sincerely hope the Vet gets her seizures under control

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Tegretol is awful. I was put on that for neuralgia and took myself back off them. You feel like a zombie.
    I know and he was on Tegretol AND Epilim...is was awful to watch

    I was put on Neurotin for severe nerve pain, but I can't take that stuff

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    Wow Clea, I said to OH last night, how devistating it would be if it were one of the kids, and then you detail Marc's episodes, thank you, and bless you (and Marc). I am confident that we will gain control with Bubba and I am delighted that Marc seems to have stabilised. I am so grateful for the impute and the advise I am receiving on this forum on a subject that has to date completely eluded me and my life.

    My late father's words come to mind...."that that doesn't kill you only serves to make you stronger" - how true.
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    How did Bella go at the vets this morning Shar?

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    Marc suffered from 3 different types of seizures. The grand mal which were triggered by his partial seizures (right sided) and then he would just get small ones (up to 20 a day) that would affect his right arm and hand, but he was still awake and those ones didn't alter his state of consciousness. Marc grand mal (tonic clonic) seizures would happen when he was sleeping or upon waking up...they would also happen if he had a fever or streptococcus infection.
    My brother suffers grand mal and i suffer partial seizures.. Like at the moment i cant feel my left arm or my left side of my face.

    My brother nearly died when he was 16 months old from having a seizure. To cut a story short, the doctors gave my brother a shot that would stop him from having a seizure (he had one that lasted 40mins) instead giving him a dose for a 16 months old, they gave him a dose for a 16 years old. The shot stop the seizures then they had to pump his stomach. i was 4 at the time and i remember sitting in PHM in the kids waiting room, colouring in.

    I have a question for Anne, Do dogs wake up and dont remember that they have had a seizure? like i know with humans that sometimes they dont remember having them

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