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    Oh no poor Bella, I've had a few dogs over the years with epilepsy(one I kept as she was too badly affected, others were adopted), I'd suggest keeping a diary to start with, note down what day/time they occurred and how long it went on for. That way you will get an idea of how bad things are. Sometimes dogs can have a fit or two and it never repeats, no idea why, but it happens.

    I've found that if a dog has a seizure only every 6 months or so, it's best not to medicate, once it gets to once a month, or once a week especially, meds are the way to go. Then you have to find the right balance as the meds can make them very groggy.

    There are a couple of commonly used meds (the names of which escape me atm of course!), the idea is to reduce the amount to as little as possible without break through seizures. It's a fine line, and sadly I've found that as dogs get older quite often the dosage has to be increased over time.

    My little maltese girl was a severe epileptic, if I went out I would leave her in the bathroom (covered in newspaper) where there was nothing she could hurt herself on if she had a fit, and also where the other dogs couldn't get to her if she did - otherwise they would have a go at her (pack mentality). I'd know if she'd fitted while I was out because the newspaper would be all messed up and crumpled. Sadly her fitting became uncontrollable and I had to make the hard decision.

    It's watch and wait time for Bella at this stage, fingers crossed it won't happen again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    LOL you emailed me an hour ago that you were going to bed!!!

    No idea what kind, won't do an MRI until/unless she has another. No idea what triggered it, she was laying on the bed with me and just went off twice, very scary
    I know I couldn't sleep...

    you could try and see if loosing weight helps (probably help in other areas too) Was she fitting??? or just paralysed??? was she breathing or not... Judi who i picked the dog food up from had some info on epilepsy I believe, she was posting in the OTHER forum about seizures. Let me check through my info Folder and get back to you.
    Occy is right though, tumors can cause seizures, also heart problems and extreme allergies. Does Bella have allergies???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    She had chicken necks for breakfast. No flashing lights, not excited, just laying around with me. 1st lasted about 45 secs, the 2nd a couple of minutes. She started shaking uncontrollably, like my mother does with MS, not violently, just uncontrollably
    Could you tell if she was conscious? I know that seizures often happen as people start to drift off to sleep and during deep sleep also.
    Shaking uncontrollably may not be epilepsy unless she was absolutely unconscious. As you said.. your mother has MS and shakes uncontrollably.. I would want to rule out other neurological disorders also.
    At least it's not Parvo... thank goodness.

    I would only give the valium to Bella if it lasts more than a minute and she is having a very violent episode.

    you must have gotten such a fright. it's awful seeing them go threw that sort of thing.. you feel s helpless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreysAreGreat View Post
    Oh no poor Bella, I've had a few dogs over the years with epilepsy(one I kept as she was too badly affected, others were adopted), I'd suggest keeping a diary to start with, note down what day/time they occurred and how long it went on for. That way you will get an idea of how bad things are. Sometimes dogs can have a fit or two and it never repeats, no idea why, but it happens.

    I've found that if a dog has a seizure only every 6 months or so, it's best not to medicate, once it gets to once a month, or once a week especially, meds are the way to go. Then you have to find the right balance as the meds can make them very groggy.

    There are a couple of commonly used meds (the names of which escape me atm of course!), the idea is to reduce the amount to as little as possible without break through seizures. It's a fine line, and sadly I've found that as dogs get older quite often the dosage has to be increased over time.

    My little maltese girl was a severe epileptic, if I went out I would leave her in the bathroom (covered in newspaper) where there was nothing she could hurt herself on if she had a fit, and also where the other dogs couldn't get to her if she did - otherwise they would have a go at her (pack mentality). I'd know if she'd fitted while I was out because the newspaper would be all messed up and crumpled. Sadly her fitting became uncontrollable and I had to make the hard decision.

    It's watch and wait time for Bella at this stage, fingers crossed it won't happen again.
    Thanks GAG, will start a diary tonight. Yeh, I am hoping it was a rare occassion. Gives you a fright doesn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Netty View Post
    I know I couldn't sleep...

    you could try and see if loosing weight helps (probably help in other areas too) Was she fitting??? or just paralysed??? was she breathing or not... Judi who i picked the dog food up from had some info on epilepsy I believe, she was posting in the OTHER forum about seizures. Let me check through my info Folder and get back to you.
    Occy is right though, tumors can cause seizures, also heart problems and extreme allergies. Does Bella have allergies???
    Yes she does suffer allergies. Perhaps I should give her half a Telfast?
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    Get the CT done - itll set you back about 800$ but it will tell you exactly what is going on.

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    Ooh a few posts while I was writing.

    45 seconds and a couple of minutes is a worry, especially the last one, that's a very long one. The full on shaking is a grand mal seizure, often dogs will lose control of their bladders and bowels while it happens.

    One thing I discovered is that dogs can have petit mal seizures, where they don't shake but will kind of "zone out", like not being aware of anything around them. My vet at the time told me of one dog that used to suddenly just lift his front leg up while he zoned out, never had the full on seizure. I'd be watching Bella for signs of petit mal too.

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    Thanks GAG Petit Mal was what I was trying to think of before...
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    cappy had a seizure once - no apparent reason - never had one again

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    Could you tell if she was conscious? I know that seizures often happen as people start to drift off to sleep and during deep sleep also.
    Shaking uncontrollably may not be epilepsy unless she was absolutely unconscious. As you said.. your mother has MS and shakes uncontrollably.. I would want to rule out other neurological disorders also.
    At least it's not Parvo... thank goodness.

    I would only give the valium to Bella if it lasts more than a minute and she is having a very violent episode.

    you must have gotten such a fright. it's awful seeing them go threw that sort of thing.. you feel s helpless.
    No she was fully conscience, just couldn't control the shaking. I tried rubbing her but it wouldn't stop, then did. Then about five mins later it happened again, this time it went on long enough for me to yell to OH to come upstairs, get in here and he tried to "clear her throat while I rang the vet and threw on some clothes. Before the fit I had noticed a wet patch on her pillow and thought it odd because she hadn't been licking the pillow. Thinking about it now she must have dribbled, which in not the norm for her.
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