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    getting late home friday night my wife tells me that archie a 6 month old has been off his food and very lethargic and i didn't think much more of it then being a bug.

    I was up early saturday morning and left the dogs outside until my wife had gotten up as to let her sleep but when she got up and opened the back door she found Archie rolling around uncontrollably.

    when i had a closer look at him i found some poo matted in his coat around his bum and thought he might of been constipated and rolling to try and get to his bum.

    the wife has had him to the vet twice over the weekend and they have no idea what the cause is and i don't think constipation is the least of his worries at the moment.

    i have found no ticks.

    he barely moves and when he does he goes into these right hand banana shaped rolling and is very tense, i have only seen him walk twice over the weekend only moving about 2m.

    when he is still he seems to be fine and can move his head without any side affects but its when he looks to get up to move is when trouble strikes.

    some of the things have looked at to compare: epilepsy, liver shunt, canine epileptoid cramping syndrome, chinook seizures but he doesn't drool and the uncontrollable movement only happens when he seems to want to move.

    any clues or ideas would grateful

    Cheers

    Dru

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    Hi Highway Dru

    I am not a vet... it's a pity the vets cannot come up with anything more useful.

    Have they done a tummy xray yet?

    has your dog had any bones? or other spikey things like sticks or fish hooks (usually covered in bait from the beach)...

    It does seem like he has a very upset and painful tummy.

    Given he's small - it's unlikely to be bloat but you might want to google that and gastric torsion to compare symptoms - tho I think if it was that - he'd be dead already.

    I know one small dog that had so much poop matted around his butt that it dried and sealed his butt closed and he couldn't poop, and his owners were too precious to clean it up so they took him to the vet to clean it up. But that sorted it pretty much. He had eaten something that disagreed with him but I'm not sure what that was. He is very fond of fermented decomposing grass clippings at the park - my dog likes those too.

    So is the other dog ok? Has archie still got the runs?

    What have you been feeding him? What can he help himself to in the yard or house? Lots of common garden plants are poisonous, most of them taste so horrible that dogs won't eat them but sometimes they make an exception and get very very sick.

    and some human medicines are very bad for dogs.

    Personally (the vet should say the same) - I'd be starving him for 12 to 24 hours - nothing but water and he is going to complain a lot. Then I'd boil up about 1 chopped chicken thigh fillet and 1 cup of rice together with at least 2 cups of water (enough for the rice to cook properly) and feed him some of that. Since he's very small - maybe three small meals (breakfast, lunch/afternoon tea, dinner) of about 100gm? and keep doing that until he has normal poops. With my dog usually happens over the next three days.

    If he's not getting better (especially since you've already had some vet advice on how to manage this), I'd be taking him back and asking for tummy xrays or ultra sound to look for what is blocking him up.

    A beach walking friend recently lost their French Bulldog because it inhaled and choked on a piece of turkey neck. It used to get chicken necks on a regular basis and took the turkey neck with way too much excitement. And was dead quicker than the owner could do anything. So you do need to be careful with bones. Cooked bones are a no-no but some raw bones can be deadly too. Especially if the dog eats too fast (usually happens when there is another dog around that is seen as competition).

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    Is the poo plugging him up? I've seen many white fluffies with a matt over the anus that prevents normal bowel movements and then when constipation strikes they're in pain. They also stop eating and barely drink which causes further constipation.

    Something hurts or is causing him pain. If his bowel movements have almost ceased then he either has something stuck in his intestines OR he's extremely constipated and in a lot of discomfort. That is a basic guess that needs to be firstly addressed as a possible simple cause that is actually quite common.

    Another cause is a mechanical injury causing soft tissue damage. He needs to be systematically felt over to feel the muscles and see what is tight, causing pain or you might even find a lump of cramped damaged muscle.
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    Sorry for the late reply but on monday the 23rd we took him back to the vet and they gave him a good dose of anti inflammatories to make sure there was no brain swelling and after having no effect and his condition going down hill we sent him on a peaceful sleep.

    No matter how the poor bugger tried to move he looked like a fish out of water flapping about.

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    Oh dear how horrible for you! So sorry to hear Did the vet ever work out the cause?
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    Highway

    Thanks for the update. I'm so sorry this has happened.

    Just wondering if it's related to the breeder and breeding practice...

    Ie do not get another puppy from the same place. Make sure you get one from a responsible breeder who does genetic health tests on the parents before deciding which dogs to pair up. And make sure you get to meet the parent dogs and check out where the puppies will be born - is nice and clean and safe...

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