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    For serious problems the max dose of fish oil is 1000mg per 10 pounds. My dog is 88 pounds so she will be fine with 8000mg. We've had three different vets, including an emergency vet tell us this amount. I'm aware of the side effects of fish oil in high dosages and she is well monitored . I should point out that I'm a registered nurse, and while I'm aware at how different dogs are to humans, I know my pharmacology and she is on vitamin E.

    As I said I'm not sure of the dosage for Tab's dog, as all dogs are different and need different doses depending on what's wrong. She would have to consult her vet.

    Thanks though.


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    I'm aware of the side effects of fish oil in high dosages and she is well monitored . I should point out that I'm a registered nurse, and while I'm aware at how different dogs are to humans, I know my pharmacology and she is on vitamin E.
    This is good to know that you know but this is also an open internet forum with many lurkers and you need to mention the vitamin E any time you suggest fish oil (or variations on that theme) especially if we're talking maximum doses.

    I've read some horror stories of what can go wrong if people try "harmless" remedies like vitamin supplements but without balancing things up for themselves or their dogs.

    We usually put measurements in metric here too. It's a bit easier to figure things out.

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    That's very polite of you for letting me know. I did only mention MY dogs dosage and mention it was for my dog, and mentioned I did not know the correct dosage for her dog. She would need to go the vet for that and if the vet put it on a low dose it wouldn't necessarily need vitamin e.

    To be 100% honest I was trying to help and didn't expect such criticism about what I specifically wrote or what metric system I use. I don't think I'll continue using this forum anymore.

    Have a nice night.


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    Saruh please dont let a few posts put you off.....the forum is usually a fountain of knowledge just added in all different views
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    As you can see I have be awol for a time,couldn't seem to face the forum after I lost my Tonka man.

    Anyways.....to the allergies.
    Both Amstaffs are on Iramine 3 times a day and are put on the cortisone when there is a particular 'hot' flare up. They are bathed weekly in pyo and the pyo conditioner as well as paws are washed with malaseb everyday.
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    Thanks ChoppaChop .

    Welcome back and sorry to hear! Losing a pet is one of the most painful things anyone can ever go through.

    As for the malaseb, I was actually looking to get that for my dogs paws. Have you noticed much improvement since using it?


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    @Saruh: The information you gave me was definitely helpful, so thanks for commenting! I would have double checked about the fish oil anyway, seeing as how you did say to consult with the vet Can I ask what vet you go to that would do an allergy test? I know you said WAVES, but I'm not sure if they'd be the ones that would do the allergy test? I didn't really know that was possible for dogs, she's had allergies for years and the vet has never mentioned that as a possibility. I don't know why I didn't consider it. (They also didn't mention that particular side effect of Predisolone. Only the short term affects. I wish they had mentioned the harm it could do in the long run as now I'm very annoyed at myself for not researching it more, seeing as how long my dog has been on it. It helped for awhile but it doesn't seem to be helping anymore so I wished we'd stopped using it awhile ago).

    I researched Hills and the reviews don't seem that great? I feel like it's something the vets recommend, but it's not necessarily the best choice. I think I might look into not using her biscuits and keeping it as minimal as possible, buying meat and everything. I looked into grass fed and not grain fed though and it seems very difficult to find in Perth actually, so that's a bummer. Kangaroo and sweet potato seems like a good combo to test her on. Then I avoid poultry all together, in case she is allergic to that as a whole and not just chicken. Do you feed her kangaroo and sweet potato biscuits, or just kangaroo meat with sweet potato? I'd be worried that I'd be giving her an unbalanced diet if I did the latter?

    By QV, do you mean the chemist brand designed for people? Because I have dermatitis myself and I actually have plenty of that already. I tried several brands and that definitely helped mine clear up, I didn't really consider it could help her as well.

    I bought some new flea treatment online so it's just waiting for it to get here. We'll do a complete overhaul of the bedding/vacuuming the floors/cleaning everything on the same day as well. Already bought a couple of new dog beds (we'll switch over our other dogs too since they like to forget whose bed is whose of course, though she's not allergic and I can't see fleas on either of them or anywhere but I know you can't always see them) but we're keeping them aside until they both get the treatment. Hopefully we'll see an improvement, but even if not we'll tried the food allergy thing and also the washing. We use Malaseb now and I might start washing her paws daily, as suggested by ChoppaChop (sorry to hear about your dog too ). My dog /hates/ baths and especially getting her paws clean (it's a real nightmare on bathing day, though it probably has something to do with how sore they are even if she hated it before any allergies appeared) but we'll see how we go.

    Thanks everyone!

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    Tab B

    you and the dog both have skin problems?

    Could it be environmental? If you lived in NSW or QLD - I'd be thinking maybe mould or mildew related but Perth is super dry - not likely to be any damp anywhere - so it might be some plant / pollen thing?

    Have both of you always had it where you are at now - or was it less bad when you lived in a different home (and visited different parks or beaches). Or has nothing much changed environmentally?

    I agree - the ingredient list on Hills Science diet puts me off completely. But if it works I'd use it. I once asked a vet nurse to explain why a tin of Hills chicken and rice (with cereals and lots of other ingredients I didn't recognise) was better for my dog's tummy upset recovery than boiled chicken and rice (for a few days) and made her read the ingredient list... and she saw my point then. She was recommending the stuff and she'd never read the ingredients and could not explain what they were or how they'd help.

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    Hey Tabs,

    Glad it helped yeah unfortunately pred causes all sorts of things like hyperglycaemia, aggression, hypokalemia, congestive heart failure, ulcers, all sorts .

    Yeah that's why I opted to use the sweet potato and kangaroo instead of hills. I was a bit worried to start with about getting her diet wrong, but it turns out kangaroo is one of the best meat based proteins available in Australia. Sweet potato is also crazy good for you. And you've just got to remember it's not forever - just until you're finished with the food trial. I boil/steam the sweet potato and cook the kangaroo (without oil). I also get dried kangaroo treats from pet barn (the daily bark/butchers choice I think) that are 100% kangaroo.

    I go to Vetwest Cannington and they also recommended the allergy test after the food trial and told us about the side effects of the pred. They're absolutely wonderful there.

    And yes that's the QV I mean, from the chemist. That's great if you already have some. Might not hurt to test it on her and just see if she reacts badly to it first with her allergies, if not keep going. The alloveen seems to be working really well with our dog too.

    As I said I was thinking about the Malaseb, but that's actually the reason I haven't started it as well. She hates having her paws washed unless she's in the shower and even then she just tolerates it. But her paws are mainly where her allergies are so that's complicated haha.

    My dog also used to hate baths up until a few weeks ago! We tried showering her, using a bath, hosing (actually she loved the hose but it was more play time for her and incredibly hard for me!), dog washes, containers of water, sponge bathing.. You name it.

    When we moved into or new place we had those showers installed that you can take off and move like a hose? And now I shower her in there with that and I can't believe how much she loves it. Now she'll literally walk in to the bathroom and stand in the shower hoping she'll get washed haha.

    With the sweet potato and kangaroo as well, the vet told me what she recommends with her weight and what her weight should be (she's about 5kg overweight) and I worked out the correct calories and amounts of each based on what the vet said and what her calorie intake should be. She also loves it haha so that makes it easier.


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    Look into antihistamines. Saruh is right, less is more with allergies and frankly I find it incredible so many 'allergy' diets are packed with inflammatory ingredients or a list as long as your arm!

    Roo is not a farmed meat - it's inherently organic compared to commercial livestock so there's minimal chance of contaminants and artificial chemicals in the meat. You can't screw up a dogs diet that badly BUT you need a source at least of calcium if you use pure roo meat. Calcium sandoz syrup or plain old calcium powder is fine just follow the side of the packet. You can also try something like Sprinter Gold products BUT I would contact Kohnke's first as they include some oils in there to prevent dustyness and to flavour to product like in Whelp and Grow (which would be the one you get) Sprinter Gold | Product Categories | Greyhound Products Direct
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