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    Default Scrolled Cartilage - anyone have experience?

    Hello everyone,

    I have a 13 week old rottweiler puppy named Zephyr, who is gorgeous, but she has been diagnosed with scrolled cartilage of her third eyelids. Last Saturday her third eyelids prolapsed and were covering about half of her eyes - she didn't seem bothered at all by it, but I took her to the vet, where they diagnosed her.

    However, the eyelid went down on Sunday, and by Monday was completely back to normal, and I'm not sure if this is normal? I was under the impression that it was going to stay prolapsed until they could perform surgery (at 6 months because they don't like putting pups under unless necessary, and the surgery is not urgent) but it hasn't and I guess I just want to make sure that this is normal. I have tried googleing this, but haven't had any luck.

    Also, if anyone has experience, would you recommend getting it done at the local vet, or going to a specialist ophthalmologist? I live in Kalgoorlie, so to go to a specialist I would have to drive for 6 hours, but I do go back to Perth fairly regularly, so it wouldn't be too much hassle.... Also I am sure the specialist would cost a fair bit more, but I have pet insurance so am not too concerned about that...

    If anyone has any advice it would be greatly appreciated!!

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    Things that prolapse - sometimes go back to normal for a while and then something happens that puts stress on the bit that is supposed to hold everything in and it falls out again...

    At least that goes for bowels and vaginas - not sure how a third eyelid can prolapse...

    Just because it's gone back to normal doesn't mean it will stay that way.

    You might want to find a forum dedicated to rotties and ask on there. It might be something they've experienced.

    I've not seen it. I see my dog's third eyelid from time to time - mostly when she's falling asleep. Seems normal to me. but if it doesn't go where it should when the dog is wide awake - the dog will have trouble seeing?

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    So you mean cherry eye??? I have in the past used massage on one of mine as a pup...and it never required surgery.......
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    Thanks for the replies guys. Yeah I thought it was cherry eye at first too (just form googling symptoms before the vet opened) but the vet diagnosed it as scrolled cartilage, which looks similar but is a different condition. Scrolled cartilage involes the cartilage in the third eye bending and popping out of place (this is how the vet explained it). The surgery is not urgent and they wouldnt be doing it for another few months anyway, so I guess I have time to see if it comes back.

    Also she didnt seem to have trouble seeing with the third eyelid out, she still managed to chase after her toys etc. She just looked like a demon

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    Glad you've made it clear the difference between "scrolled cartilage" or prolapse of 3rd eyelid and cherry eye. I've seen cherry eye...cherry eye usually needs surgery so the dog can see or to prevent blindness...

    Glad it's not bothering the dog and the vet knows what to do.

    If your dog is a pedigree (registered with ANKC) - you might want to submit the details of your dog and her ancestry to the LIDA DNA database via your vet so that they can track if it's a genetic (inherited) problem. And you'd also want to let the breeder know either way. Some breeders welcome information like this and some get upset so tread gently.

    LIDA Dogs - LIDA Dogs - Faculty of Veterinary Science - The University of Sydney

    PS according to this, cherry eye and scrolled cartilage have a lot in common and they happen quite a bit with giant breeds and there is a genetic component (according to some other stuff on the net) and both are grouped together as "ocular soft tissue abnormaility"
    http://www.greatdaneowners.co.uk/ind...olling-eyelid/
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 02-02-2015 at 04:04 PM.

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