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    Looks nice, but ways too expensive. We'll only need this stuff for a few weeks. So I was thinking to just buy a pile of cheap rugs on gumtree.

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    Hi Margoo, just wanted to wish Nero good luck for his op on 28th.
    Both my current dogs have busted ACL's
    There are 2 operations, the one that works is roughly $1500 more in cost < easy way to tell.
    Pohm had the big op. Done a teaching dog hospital that's a charity.
    After surgery, she was miserable, in a lot of pain, and i was horrified by the mess of the sutures!
    She was to be crated for 2 weeks. Taken out for a slow walk on leash, other dogs out the way, throughout the day. She had twice the dose of morphine my husband had for same operation in his discharge meds. Seriously unsafe dose IMO so i halved it.
    She was on meds for pain, the runs that caused her, vaginal thrush that was the result of the antibiotics, and hated tablet time.
    She was in a wretched state, that had me in tears often. I did not cope well with seeing her in such a sorry state, and felt guilty as hell, for throwing the balls.
    I carried the treatment plan out to the letter for 4 weeks, and it broke again.

    I then swapped to damage limitation mode and went moderation management, no off leash, every rumpus stopped, not allowed to run far/long. It took her a good year, to recoup, But she was miserable. She hated missing out on the fun. Id try to sneak out, but she'd be there, staring at me through the window, folorn, as i left with bernie and brian, the other 2 dogs.
    So about 6 months ago, i decided to give her her life back. And took my foot off the brakes for her. She's so happy again
    I KNOW, that she will be crippled with arthritis, and has signs of this now.
    I use paracetamol for her pain in winter. This winter, was like living with an old dog. And on a few occasions, when it was cold dark and raining, she would turn around to head back in the house. Odd for her.
    So this is how it ended for me.

    My GSD has luxiating patella. But he has not noticed it yet. Shows no signs of distress as he trots in his weird way, where his leg has a 'hitch up' moment. The gait is normal at a gallop. So its definately positional cause of it popping out, on every step. And he shows no signs of pain?
    He can no longer bend lift legs to self groom his fluffy breaches anymore, because of pain, so my grooming has stepped up for tha job now. And he's not happy chap, around his back end. But he's gentle with his clear message to back off. He'll take himself to the crate to avoid this at times

    Their quality of life is high. They are allowed to do what they want mostly these days.
    Could of saved myself $4k though!

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    Good luck. My girl had a bilateral TPLO and I was very conservative with her recovery as per the specialists instructions. She went back to agility and both legs were good until she died at age 14. That recovery period is super important.

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    Thanks for that Bernie and I'm so sorry you and Pohm had to go through this. It sounds truly horrible. But I totally understand why you don't want her to miss out on everything. In the past year we have stopped all fetch games and done boring little 'old dog' walks often on leash to both dogs utter disgust. Nero often finds abandoned old tennis balls when we're out and brings them back so hopeful that I change my mind, it breaks my heart to always turn him down. But even though I too have my foot on the break, he still manages to get into mischief. Takes off after a roo, chases magpies or does zoomies with Rox in the garden. And he pays for it by days and weeks of limping and struggling with getting up not being able to jump up on the bed or into the car. This winter was pretty miserable for him. Yes, just like living with an old dog! Yet, he is only 5. In his mind he is still a puppy, so he should have many more years of happy games.

    We have thought long about whether to do this. It's a big surgery and I don't expect Nero to be very brave in all of this. He is not very good with pain and I'll be just as pathetic. When I had my own knee surgery I insisted on an epidural so I could watch the procedure. But this is Neros knee - totally different story - I can't even read the info leaflet on the op without feeling sick. It's a TTA they propose.

    As for recovery our vet says 6 weeks no walks. Then he has to have another xray and if all goes well we can then start building up slowly with a leisure 10 mins stroll once a day or so. I'm not sure what I dread more, surgery day or the 6 weeks after.

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    'margoo' - Really sorry to be reading this – but at least you know now what the problem is and what has to be done to fix it.

    Why not PM ‘newfsie’ to find out what she did when Katy had her operation – particularly the after care ?

    I would suggest you get a crate – if you don’t have one already. A 48” one would be a good size for to start with. But it would also be excellent for night time sleeping for Nero.

    Also look at a ‘playpen’. I bought one of these - when ‘Jaws’ first arrived at our place. It worked well for the few weeks it was needed.

    Perma Multi Purpose Barrier up to 3.7m I/N 4210671 | Bunnings Warehouse

    You can also get dog ones – like these:

    puppy playpen in Adelaide Region, SA | Pet Products | Gumtree Australia Free Local Classifieds

    A cover is a good idea to stop any jumping up.

    Heaps and Heaps of Good Luck Wishes for this operation for Nero on the 29th !


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    Something else you could look at – is non-slip socks for Nero:

    https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sour...U&cr=countryAU

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    'margoo' - Really sorry to be reading this – but at least you know now what the problem is and what has to be done to fix it.

    Why not PM ‘newfsie’ to find out what she did when Katy had her operation – particularly the after care ?

    I would suggest you get a crate – if you don’t have one already. A 48” one would be a good size for to start with. But it would also be excellent for night time sleeping for Nero.

    Also look at a ‘playpen’. I bought one of these - when ‘Jaws’ first arrived at our place. It worked well for the few weeks it was needed.

    Perma Multi Purpose Barrier up to 3.7m I/N 4210671 | Bunnings Warehouse

    You can also get dog ones – like these:

    puppy playpen in Adelaide Region, SA | Pet Products | Gumtree Australia Free Local Classifieds

    A cover is a good idea to stop any jumping up.

    Heaps and Heaps of Good Luck Wishes for this operation for Nero on the 29th !


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    Neither of these options is suitable for moderation management required post surgery. It needs to contain the dog snuggly. Stand, just about turn around in size. No room to jump, stand up on hind legs, play bow, anything really. so they'd be way too roomy.

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    This is the crate rest exercises video...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfL9...ature=youtu.be

    A dog I see regularly at the beach has injured himself and just as he was getting better - has done it again.. couldn't put weight on his front left paw - looked like he'd buggered his wrist but hard to tell. Poor thing just wants to pretend it hasn't happened and jump around like a lunatic anyway. it was enough he had to hop all the way home on lead. Owner was not happy. This particular dog is also prone to skin cancer lumps... and is racking up the fees at the vet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Neither of these options is suitable for moderation management required post surgery. It needs to contain the dog snuggly. Stand, just about turn around in size. No room to jump, stand up on hind legs, play bow, anything really. so they'd be way too roomy.
    I really appreciate your comment ‘bernie’ - as you come from a medical background - though I do beg to differ with your comment above.

    There was a reason why I put the suggestions and links with my comment for ‘margoo’. It was a real life ‘case study’.

    One of my pup’s litter sisters had CL surgery 10 weeks ago. The pup is now ~ 16 months old. The specialist surgeon – who is also the physiotherapist, and the owners are very pleased with the results at this 10 week stage. The operation and the after-care have worked well so far.

    As far as the links I put up – they were suggestions which were similar to the links and advice that were used by the owners of the pup above. They also used a show trolley for the first couple of weeks – to make it easier to move her around and also for toileting.

    Thankfully, this pup will never chase a moving/thrown ball ever again ! This form of exercise was the main contributor to the injury that occurred.

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    'margoo' - Again - I wish you - Heaps and Heaps of Good Luck Wishes for this operation for Nero on the 29th !
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