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    The reason for the ultrasound makes sence. They will be checking to see if he has hydronephrosis (Kidney pelvis enlargement). Often the cause of UTI's can caused by reflux of urine from bladder to kidney. The one way valve is allowing it back up. The MRi might be if they were looking for more "evil" things, be it prostrate issue or kidney.
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    Yes I would think they would start simple with a urine test and a course of antibiotics. If they persist or there is obviously something more serious going on the proceed from there. That is the experience I have had with vets over the years and fortunately for my dogs a course of antibiotics have done the job. Never had anyone jump straight to an MRI. I have had one on my knee and they cost a fortune.

    This vet sounded like she wanted to jump straight to the full monty without a particular reason offered. Maybe not a very good diagnostic vet, needs all the technology first up.
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    It sounded like a lot of blood and clotting. I would not put that down to a simple UTI....simple is smelly, frequency, slight blood. If it was my dog, I would want more done. But tht is most likely becuase i work in the human Medical world. Ultrasound should not be thtat expensicve and just done right there in the rooms if you go to the right vet. My Hubby has also installed quite a few MRI's in Vet practises, which is what we in the Radiology world (I work in a Radiology Department) "plug in's".They are nothing like the ones that we the humans go through and again should not be that expensive. Our cat went through after trauma........But you have to have faith in your vet and if that is not there, i would look for another vet. Always go withyour gut feeling, if they do not seem right, they most likely are not.
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    Yes I think you have to trust your vet. I like mine to give me an explanation as to why they believe something is required. I have on occassion payed for something that I realise now was simply not required, I didnt want, and once actually resulted in the death of my old dog. That was a harsh lesson. A speicialist friend I spoke to afterwards was aghast at the course of unnecessary treatment that was taken.

    I have become a lot more savvy these days. I am happy to get my dogs the treatment they need but I like to know the detail. My current vet is a middle aged no nonsense practical woman who is pretty switched on to what is needed and what is not having probably seen most of it before. Being a small but busy country practice one has to be practical out here. It is a long way to go for a specialist consult or anything other than x-rays.

    I remember my mother once seeing a young vet who talked her into all these tests that were completey ridiculous. Another vet diagnosed the problem and it was unrelated to the tests that had been done at vast expense.

    So yes like also with doctors you have to question and also develop a good relationship with your vet.

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    Yep ....most likely written badly quickly at work, I should not do that.......

    As a bladder only UTI hardly ever causes large blood-clots in the urine and a kidney infection does (and some other things can too, injury, stones, cancer), which is most likely caused by the reflux of infected urine back to the kidney. Hence i think that is why they thought of using ultrasound. Being blood clots in the urine makes me think they thought of some possible other reasons, The MRI seems a little over the top, unless they had one on site. My self personally if my dogs had blood clots, I would want something done pronto and not just passed on for UTI treatment...and that would even be if it was me, not the dog. A bit of blood stained urine is OK, blood clots are not.....
    Where i work we see a lot of damage to kidneys from either infections left undiagnosed with reflux. But also kidney problems where there is no underlying infection. I frankly do not care what anyone says blood clots is not a good symptom to have. And definitly not to be ignored..........
    Do GSD's Cystinuria ("Cystinuria is an inherited autosomal recessive disease that is characterized by the formation of cystine stones in the kidneys, ureter, and bladder"), it is common in Newfies and Blood/blood clots is often a first sign. It is a genetic disease we are trying to reduce in the newfies, but is still found in quite a few.

    I suppose another simple question to ask is did he have a temperature...the often forgotten sign of infection

    And maybe he is fine now, I hope so. I over think stuff with my dogs.....Worry way too much
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    I think it gets back to vets communicating to the client why they have selected a diagnostic pathway.

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    Brian is fully recovered, just has to finish his anti biotics, but no blood in pee since first pee yesterday morning.
    His limp is vastly improved on anti imflams. But you get that. The test will be when we stop them, what happens next?
    His stools are loose from AB's, so he's on yoghurt too to help his tum.

    And the long w/e. Hubby and I built a new fence line. 5ft tall, wooden planks, nailed to posts, with an inch gap between planks. The dogs love the new fence. Means they have full access around the house. When i came home from work last night, was able to sneak into the house without being noticed, as they were down in newly fenced area. So less effective guards due to distance they can get from house. Not sure if this is a good thing?

    All is well in doggie town. Im sore as hell, but its a 'clean' pain, from construction work. Feel very liberated and dead handy with a drill now.

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    They might pay more attention to the house if they know you're sneaking in without telling them...

    Hopefully the new fence will encourage your dogs to stay home. I think 5 foot would only keep Frosty in "by agreement".

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    I am glad Brian has recovered.......Just read he was on antiflamm's that could have been the reason for the blood clots when he had a UTI.....Anti inflamms this the blood and if there is any bleeding anywhere often increase it.......full history often helps
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    His urine infection is cleared, yeast infection absent presently. But he's now skin n bone. Like seriously skinny and no condition.
    Now we have vet all clear, time to beef him up a little, switched diet to include 1 x satin ball per day. That may help. This is a very sickly dog. His demeanor is fine, no change how he behaves.
    Except my other 2 dogs sniff his back leg joints regularly, they can smell something is wrong im sure. And its raining today, damp, and he's struggling to walk on those arthritic back legs.
    and yet again, i find my self in the anti immflamatory loop. upset gut, dog not wary as not in pain due to meds, and further straining joints.

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