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    Hi all,

    just a quick question - does anyone here cook their dog food before feeding to your dog?

    At the moment I feed Serena raw chicken mince that come in frozen logs with some premium kibble mixed in. I keep the mince in my fridge in an air tight container as I am very aware that chicken mince can harbor nasty little bugs. She loves it but i wonder if I should mix it up a bit and cook her mince with some rice and veges? Its easier just feeding her the raw mince but i wonder if I am exposing her to salmonella etc - or do these nasties affect dogs less than they do humans?

    thank you

    Adrian

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    raw chicken mince that come in frozen logs
    Is this pet grade chicken mince? Chances are it is actually minced chicken carcass ie includes bones - so cooking it would be really bad.

    My mum bought chicken mince from the butcher to make our dog food casserole - and he sold her minced carcass not minced chicken meat - and that meant the dog got an impaction in her gut and it cost a lot of money to fix up.

    So there's no way I'd ever let the butcher know I was buying for the dog. And in the supermarket - I avoid the stuff designated for "pets". If it's not ok for me to eat (cooked), I'm not buying it for her.

    With pet food there aren't any rules much. They do consider stuff that actually poisons your dog as "not fit for purpose" so you might get your money back on the food, but you'd have to sue to get your vet bills paid.

    Not worth it. If they sell dodgy people food - they can kiss their business good bye if it makes anyone sick.

    Raw chicken mince - would probably only keep a day or so in the fridge - human grade or not. I wouldn't want to keep it longer - you can tell by the sulphury (rotten egg) smell it gets if kept too long.

    What I mostly get is cryovac'd roo mince - human grade. Sometimes I make spag bol out of it but mostly I make my dog's dinner out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Is this pet grade chicken mince? Chances are it is actually minced chicken carcass ie includes bones - so cooking it would be really bad.

    My mum bought chicken mince from the butcher to make our dog food casserole - and he sold her minced carcass not minced chicken meat - and that meant the dog got an impaction in her gut and it cost a lot of money to fix up.

    So there's no way I'd ever let the butcher know I was buying for the dog. And in the supermarket - I avoid the stuff designated for "pets". If it's not ok for me to eat (cooked), I'm not buying it for her.

    With pet food there aren't any rules much. They do consider stuff that actually poisons your dog as "not fit for purpose" so you might get your money back on the food, but you'd have to sue to get your vet bills paid.

    Not worth it. If they sell dodgy people food - they can kiss their business good bye if it makes anyone sick.

    Raw chicken mince - would probably only keep a day or so in the fridge - human grade or not. I wouldn't want to keep it longer - you can tell by the sulphury (rotten egg) smell it gets if kept too long.

    What I mostly get is cryovac'd roo mince - human grade. Sometimes I make spag bol out of it but mostly I make my dog's dinner out of it.
    It is pet grade. Not sure of its origin but I'll ask the supplier. I get it from a wholesale pet food supplier close to where I live. Serena seems to like it fine. I would consider human grade mince but the cost is pretty high and I have a tight budget as it is. However, I might buy it fresh instead of frozen so I can portion it up and just defrost as needed. this means I don't have to have a big tub of it sitting in my fridge. I've tried fresh roo for Serena and she poo-pooed it. Next time I cook pasta i'll make sure there is enough for Serena too. She'll have to fight William the eating machine for it though. Seriously that kid can eat.

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    I do, but then I eat it myself too! Almost every cooked meal in my house comes out of my electric frying pan. I start with a packet of regular beef mince from Coles or Woolies.....Cook it up with a bit of olive oil.....put some in dishes for the cats, then I'll throw in some rice vermicelli noodles......separate some for Tara, then throw in some greens from my garden and seasoning and there's my own dinner. I try to get Tara to eat vegetables too.....but she doesn't like them. I have 3 big sacks of Supercoat Light & Mature biscuits....and she doesn't like those either.......when she's done eating her mince she tiptoes down to my craft room.....where I feed the cats.....and polishes off the remains of their dinner/biscuits too.

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    There are wholesale butchers around. They can bring the price of meat down substantially. Our foodlands sell mince (for people) at around $6 per kilo or less if you buy more but you can get it even cheaper if you go to a wholesaler. And there's a couple of farmer direct places that you can order meat from. But I'd need to buy a chest freezer before I could shop with them.

    If it's minced carcass - you should be able to feel the bone in it. Ie if you roll it around in your fingers it would feel splintery or rough. That's only good to feed raw. I like to freeze all my stuff in useable portions - for me and for the dog... Got a big slab of rump steak today and cut that into about five pieces for freezing now and cooking later.

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    First thing - DO NOT TOUCH PET GRADE "FRESH" MEAT! There are no limits on the preservatives they can add to it and this has caused very serious problems for dogs fed that.

    Second - Do dogs in the wild cook their food first?

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    I have never cooked my animal's food that I supplement as they don't have stoves and microwaves in the wild. The exception is boiled rice and chicken if there is a very rare upset stomach..once I think in the last nearly 5 years with 3 then 4 dogs.
    They have meat and bones from the butcher to supplement the dry dog food and yes though, they do have leftover suitable table scraps that are cooked.

    I have never bought pet meats either.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    There are brands of pet mince that claim they don't contain preservatives. Only, it's more expensive than human grade mince! I do give mine pet mince from the pet shop. They claim it uses minimal preservatives, but who knows.

    Lately, the big supermarkets have been selling beef mince for humans for a bit over $4 a kilo. I wouldn't eat the stuff myself, but it's great for the pets. And I get chicken mince from the chicken shop, no preservatives either. I find it too fatty though, so I mix it with the pet roo mince. Some butchers will make their own pet mince which often is preservative free too as they just use the off cuts and offal from the rest of their meat. I've had some bad experiences with getting batches that they had presumably added their past its use by date sausage mince to though. I could smell the spices and stuff. Not good for the pets!

    I can't see any reason to cook the meat either. I always feed mine raw, except when I forgot to take it out of the freezer in time and my microwave's defrost setting ends up boiling the outside.

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    I feed everything raw. I find hearts are reletively inexpensive and I sometimes buy a large pack of human grade mince if it is on special. I do sometimes buy pet grade roo mince but it is labelled as preservative free and is not exactly cheap. Chicken thighs can sometimes be good value on special but I feed chicken fairly quickly or freeze it. Mainly though I get one of my own sheep slaughtered occassionally and that gets frozen and fed raw. The bulk of my dogs diet however is a good quality kibble.

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