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    Long time browser, first time poster.

    We just got a rescue, he is a french mastiff cross with a neo mastiff, 5 years old. He poops at least 3 times, usually one after the other. The first one will be solid and the ones after that are really soft and runny. At first we thought he was just adjusting to a new home but its been 2 months now. I dont think he is sick as he is normal and happy otherwise.

    When we take him to the dog park, we will poop once which is solid then he moves to another location and do his runny poos a few more times, its like he is using poop to mark his territory rather than pee. It looks like when he forces the poo thats when it becomes runny.

    Has anyone else had this issue? how do i just get him to poop once then stop and not force it.

    thanks in advance

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    Hi 'Titan43' and to the forum ! Hope you enjoy being a member here !

    2 months is a long time for the pup to be going through this. Have you been to see the vet about this problem ?

    Is your pup up to date with worming ? Parasites and worms could have an effect.

    Also - I would be looking at what you are feeding your pup on - maybe there is something in his diet that is causing this.

    Would love to see some photos of your pup - if possible - please !

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    Hi Titan43 and welcome

    Some dogs do use poop to mark their territory. Especially male kelpies I've noticed, and they try to get their poop as high up a chain mesh fence as they can - just lovely.

    If the vet says everything is good, and changing his diet to something else doesn't make any difference...

    I would be tempted to just push him off balance any time he shows signs of going for poop number 2 or 3 at the park. Ie you know the first one will be good. Don't let him force out a second or third poo-mail message for his friends.

    My dog likes to poop on the verge about three houses from home. And I'd rather she saved it till we got home, especially if it's dark and the grass on the verge is long. So I just stop her from sniffing or push her if she starts to do the poop arch ...

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    he's not forcing he's irritated hence what looks like forcing it out. What is the dogs current diet
    http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/Mali_nut/K9LOGO.jpg

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    Diarrhoea can be caused by constipation too. At least in humans, but I assume the mechanism is the same for dogs.

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    Maggie does this when she eats something she is not digesting properly. For her it is too many veggies after we visit my sister and she wangles some of their home cooked dog food. She eats raw with no problems.

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    This particular pattern of pooing, and pattern of feaces coming out, is text book irritated bowel from allergy/sensitivity.
    Thankyou for rescuing your mastiff x 2 cross! I made the same foolish mistake about 10 months ago lol
    My french mastiff marks with shit. The higher up the better. So bushes are fame game for to be decorated by his poo. Amazing skill actually if you think about it.
    So 3 poos a day, is that normal? yes, the lower the quality of food, the more shit in a nutshell.

    French mastiff come with their own set of health issues. As do neo's. But i now know several french mastiff owners on the internet only, and they all have an issue with wheat. It creates various levels of diarhhoea in these dogs. The pattern solid>runnier>runniest suggests IBS to me or wheat allergy.
    So more expense in diet change called for. and you begin to see why so many of these dogs are being rehomed in the states. Expensive.
    IF your dog has a wheat allergy, you may notice other tell tale signs: toenails are discoloured with brown staining = yeast infection. Hair falling out = wheat allergy,. Runny poo = sensitivity to and here is the french mastiff's hierarchy of culprits:
    1. Wheat comes in various degrees of sensitivity. One mouthful of my other dogs food, and our mastiff will show signs of runny poo, and hair falling out. Just one mouthful.
    2. Beef
    3. Chicken

    Amount of poo. My mastiff will fill up a dustpan with his poo daily. That's the amount of waste on a 50% raw and meaty bones 50% Grain free kibble, and id say when we got him at first he was pooing watery foul smelling stuff. So i changed diet to raw on day one. No phase in, immediate swap. There was blood in his poo also his bowel was so irritated.

    Oregano is sprinkled accross his food weekly as a ant iimflammatory and apple cider vinegar 2table spoons to a 4L bucket of fresh water as mine is prone to yeast infections, I mix 1 tablespoon of vagisil feminine anti fungal stuff for smelly lady bits, has the same active ingredient in Maleseb $40 a bottle anti fungal wash they need for all those folds and crannies. because he swims daily, and i dont dry him he's extra prone. But we're having a ball swimming with the other 2. So positive risk taking goes here.

    I am not the sort of dog owner, that takes their dogs to a vet for runny poo. I am also a nurse, so unless you're dying, we dont go to a doctors.
    If you know he's up to date with worming, and there are no worms or pieces of worm in the poo.
    Smell is a clue as to when runny poo is concerning. YOu can smell cancer in poo i swear! You can also smell something is WRONG in my opinion, whereas allergy poo is rarely 'something crawled up there and died' tell tell aroma of illness. I do have a sensitive nose though.
    When you feed raw, you become an expert on your dogs poo unfortunately!

    Sounds fine, but sensitive. Change diet, with eliminating all grains first. Try grain free kibble or raw diet if you can afford it.
    Wait a week and judge poo again. IF still runny, try chicken then beef removal. IF still runny....
    decide if you can live with it, or need to go raw fully. No allergies in raw diet for dogs.
    Bloody expensive when you need a wheelbarrows worth per week though!

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    and can we see a photo please there are a few of us on here, who've come by a rescue mastiff in the past year alone. We're suckers for those mushy faces.

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    Thanks everyone,

    Bernie, the big fella is up to date with his worming and vacinations. For the first 2 weeks he was on a raw diet of chicken and veggies but thats what we thought was giving him the runny poos (as he was on kibble at the shelter), we switched him to kibble mixed in with a really small amount of wet food (Iamas for the large dog breed) not sure if there is wheat in. The amount of poo isn't really the issue, if they were all solid it would be only be about 2 handfuls a day, so the amount is not that big for a dog his size, as for the smell its not overly smelly for poop, our cats poos are smellier.

    It seems to be getting better, we are trying to keep his diet as routine as possible (its hard not to give him treats ). He is due for a check up on cherry eye which comes and goes so if the runny poos continue we'll ask the vet about it too.


    I tried attaching a pic on here and on my profile but i think my photos are too large, heres a link to a pic i snapped last night when we were watching TV.
    He is really docile, we have 2 white persian cats and he lets them play with his jools...its quite a sight. I'll try and take a video next time its pretty funny

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/aubvn8kin0...21.25.12-1.jpg

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    Oh he is just gorgeous

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