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    Hi everyone,

    My parents dog (who I grew up with) is a 9.5yr old golden retriever. Mum was out walking her last week and she sort of slipped/fell off the edge of the concrete path but seemed fine afterwards. The next day she developed a small limp in her front leg but mum didn't worry about the vet as she assumed that it was just a bit sore from the fall. Last night (Friday night) she suddenly got very sore and was unable to put any weight on her front legs and was wobbly on her back legs so they rushed her to the after hours vet. She spent the night there and was even worse this morning.. All 4 legs are now paralysed.
    They have taken X-rays and have ruled out any tumor or mass on her spine and don't think that it's blood clots so they are leaning towards one or more slipped discs. She will go in for an MRI on Monday to see how bad it is. She will also get transferred to their regular vet, who is also a qualified chiropractor, after the weekend.
    The only two options at the moment are surgery and PTS however the vet doesn't think that surgery is a good option because of her age and how 'intense' the surgery recovery is. (Plus the $8000+ price). She has already had 2 CL ruptures and surgeries.
    At the moment I'm leaning towards trying acupuncture for her.. It may not work but surely it's worth a try? She is still such a happy, bright, mentally active dog and it just seems unfair to PTS right away without trying any alternatives to surgery.
    What are everyone's thoughts? Are there any good acupuncturists around the Sunshine Coast/Brisbane area?

    I'm going overseas next Sunday so the timing couldn't be worse as if it does come down to her being PTS, I'd like to make the trip to the Sunshine Coast to see her and say goodbye

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    I'm not a professional in regards to vet medicine or anything so I'm just thinking out loud here, but have they tried anti-inflammatories to help and if so was there any relief? I think I'd be trying the acupuncture and/or chiro before surgery, especially considering how risky (and expensive) it is.

    I'm sorry for you and your retriever. I hope everything works out. Hopefully others can offer advise. xx

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    Really very sorry to read this – 'Kristy.Maree' ! It never seems to just rain - does it ? - but pours down !

    Some links for you:

    Practioner Listing - AVCA - Australian Veterinary Chiropractic Association

    Rowan Kilmartin – is a vet also and has a good reputation:

    Animal Options Veterinary Clinic & Vet Surgery Ormeau, Gold Coast

    Another one for you:

    Veterinary Acupuncture in Maleny

    I used to deal with these people years ago – when they first started business – so maybe give them a call – they should know ‘what is what’ around your area:

    Greenpet Animal Naturopathy - Natural Healing Therapies and Petcare for your Dog, Cat and Horse

    Also – why not phone/get in touch with ‘Nev Allen’ – I am sure he would know of someone that is good – particularly him being an ‘agility guru’ !

    Heaps of Good Luck Wishes and !

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    Thanks guys.

    They have been giving her anti-inflammatories since last night but she worsened overnight so they don't think they're working but will give her a bit more time to respond. If she worsens again tonight (loses bladder function etc), I'm not sure if they will bother with the MRI so hopefully she stays stable or improves a little bit.

    Thanks for the links Riley! Meika and Molly are actually staying at Nev's while we're overseas so I'll have a chat to him on Saturday when we drop them off

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    Again ‘Kristy.Maree' - so very sorry to read your update.

    Sounds more like degenerative disc disease than just a slipped disc/s – with this new information you have given – particularly with the loss of bladder control.

    I have had this happen to 2 of my pups in the past - though they were a few years older than your families' pup.

    Heaps of Good Luck Wishes and to you and your family !

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    I've got some friends with long backed puppy mill specials who have had back problems. The first one to damage her back - took about three months to get better. Vets offered all sorts of invasive and expensive investigations after the xrays didn't find anything specific, and my friends opted for anti inflammatory and pain killers and time. So that dog is now moving quite well and the other one can barely walk - which they've decided in consultation with the vet has something to do with his wrists and paws.

    Bizarre they can't see the connection between the dogs' dodgy genetics and puppy farm ancestry and the current health problems.

    Anyway - the problem may or may not get better on it's own and you may be dealing with a month of incontinence before it does get better but it may still get better. Tho my friends dogs were a lot smaller than a GR.

    It might help to find a GR specific club or forum and ask them how these things work out for Golden Retrievers if they know.

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    Thankfully she still has full bladder control, and hopefully she remains that way. I spoke to mum a few hours ago and she said that she's able to stand but is wobbly - like she's downed a bottle of tequila.

    Hya, she was from a pet shop, that long ago we weren't really aware of puppy mills, dodgy breeding etc. I have no doubt that it's her breeding that has caused her two CL injuries.

    I'm still leaning towards completely avoiding surgery, because of her age and the vet said there is only a 50% chance of things going well. But I don't want to jump at the PTS option right away either.. I think we at least owe it to her to try some other alternatives, like acupuncture... Even if it's only 3 or so sessions to see if there is even the slightest improvement.

    What would you guys do?

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    Any news – this morning ?

    ‘Kristy.Maree – I agree with you ! I would be very reluctant to operate on this pup – if it was mine. Age would be a big factor in my thinking – plus if you are dealing with the spine – massive problems if things go wrong !

    I would be looking – as you are – at other ways of trying to find out what is going on and to bring some assistance to this pup. So acupuncture and chiro would be the areas that I would start with.

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    No news yet this morning, my parents spent last night at the Gold Coast as my grandmother is also unwell so hopefully mum will get a chance to call the vet soon. I'm about 3.5hrs away and trying to decide if I should go to the Sunshine Coast to see Roxy as she must be very lonely and scared at the vet but at the same time, we're going overseas next weekend and I have so much to do and organize at home. The timing couldn't be worse!!

    Plus poor Meika has a really stubborn yeast infection in her ear that we just can't seem to budge! We really need to concentrate on getting rid of it before she goes into the kennels! Our vet really wants to take Meika and look after her at her own house while we're away (she's just so loveable) but I can't seperate her and Molly and I'm sure Nev will be able to give her some ear drops if it's still not cleared up.

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    I would be looking at diet to start with. Get rid of all grains and sugar in her diet and look at raising her immune system with things like vegetables and yoghurt with all the good bugs in it.

    Vegetables to improve dog health.jpg

    Also look at decreasing the amount of hair near/in her ear opening. I am lucky with Riley that he has short hair - but his ear design is similar to Meika's floppy ears.

    I use 'Clean Ear Solution' for my pups and it has always worked really well.

    Love the photo of 'all' the pups !
    Yes - I think 'Nev Allen' is up to putting ear drops in !

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