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    My 13 week old Schnauzer puppy took a dump on his puppy pads tonight and I looked at his poo before I tossed it in the toilet and it had several white "worm-like" creatures.
    When I looked closely they were slowly moving.
    I have never seen parasitic worms before so was just wondering if anyone could ID what they are, and which worm they are?

    As soon as I saw them I freaked and immediately gave him an exelpet dog all intestinal/heartworm worming chew which he slowly ate.
    The vet said that she doesn't like supermarket all wormers as she says although they won't make your dog sick, the chemicals in them can be old and they worms may be resistant to them so they may not work as well.

    I'm not so sure of that, as vets are often told this kind of stuff by suppliers who sell them high priced worming products to onsell to you.
    In other words "supermarket stuff won't work.. but we just happen to have something that will for 10 times the price etc"...

    We gave our corgis exelpet supermarket wormers all their lives and they were fine.

    Any opinions/advice?
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    Hi 'oskar-schnauzer' and to the forum !

    There are quite a few threads on here about worms in dog poop - so have a good look around.

    Worming your pup is an important part of caring for your dog. I use Drontal for intestinal worms for my pups and I get them from the vet. I could buy them online as I know others do this.

    When I am dealing with the health of my pups – I do not begrudge paying money to a qualified professional vet to get things correct.

    Grizzling about the price of things is OK – but if by trying to save money and buying something that does not work or does not work very well – is false economizing in my book !

    Some links for you to learn more about worms in your dog poop.

    This link gives a schedule for worming your pup:

    Intestinal Worms in Dogs

    These links show what the common worms found in dog poop look like:

    Dogs NSW - What in the Worm? - Common Internal Parasites in Australian Dogs

    Worms in Pups

    This link shows you what the popular brands are used by dog owners:

    Heart & Intestinal Wormers Reviews for Australians

    Happy Researching !

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    I give my dog Canex for worms - every three months, and Revolution - which covers fleas and heart worms and other stuff.

    The Canex - I have to put inside of cream cheese (the in a jar sort), or in peanut butter and a sardine to get her to eat them. They smell foul - I can't imagine they taste any better. The peanut or cheese - seals them up...

    And then 6 to 12 hours later - she does bright pink poo. So I know when the wormer has done its job.

    And there is no way I'd be putting puppy pads into the dunny. Not unless I wanted to pay my plumber a retainer to show up with the drain reaming eel every week. I'd be putting them into plastic bag and then into the garbage.

    City dogs are at pretty low risk of most kinds of worms... but heart worm - comes on the wind with mozzies, tape worm - from badly prepared food - especially offal (eg liver), and a few other things from sniffing other dogs' poo - which mine does like to do.

    So I look for a system that covers fleas, tape worm (hydatid), intestinal worms (tho some research suggests some of these might actually be good), heart worm. Not too worried about mange or mites - but bonus if it covers that as well. We do get mangy foxes and koalas in the city.

    The drontal wormer is great - because dogs just scoff them down. But it doesn't cover everything I need and doubles up on some of the things covered by the Revolution flea spot on.

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    Your vet is right - supermarket brand wormers don't work well at all and I think that finding those worms is the proof you need that the wormer you are using isn't doing it's job. If you want a healthy, happy dog - buy the more expensive wormer.. It will save you money in the long run.

    I use sentinel on my two dogs.. An easy, chewable tablet once a month and it treats fleas, heart worm and all intestinal worms (including tapeworm - a lot of other 'combination' wormers don't - so make sure that whatever you buy treats tapeworm). I buy 6 tablet packs (6 months worth) and it works out to be about $13.50 a tablet/month (that's for large dogs - smaller dogs are cheaper). I find it easier and cheaper than seperately treating for worms/heart worm/fleas but everyone has their own way of doing things so it's really up to you.

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    The thing is.. the ingredient in the exelpet supermarket wormer, is actually the same ingredient used in drontal more expensive from the vet.
    It's a commonly used worming agent also used in humans.

    Not sure of the logic of paying more for a different kind of packet.. will do some further research..
    Any ID on these worms what u think they are?

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    It's hard to tell by the photo.. What size were they? Did they have any teeth? You're best to show your vet and talk to them. Exelpet and drontal both have praziquantel but other ingredients are different. While praziquantel does treat all worms, it is mainly just used for tapeworm.

    The proof is in the pudding really... If you notice worms, would you really keep using the same wormer? Pets are expensive and worming (along with vaccinations) are one of those things you just can't 'hope for the best' on. Maybe your dog needs a wormer with a different active ingredient. Milbemycin oxime is used in sentinel (fleas, heart worm and all intestinal worms), interceptor (heart worm and all intestinal worms, not fleas) and panoramis (heartworm, fleas and all intestinal worms but not tapeworm). You can but praziquantel tablets separately to treat tapeworm. Plus I'm sure there are many other wormers with a different active ingredient. Like I said, it only costs me $13.50 a month to treat one large dog for heart worm, fleas and intestinal worms (using sentinel) which I think is a very reasonable price and your dog would be cheaper as they are smaller... and in 2 years she has never had any worms or fleas (even though she is around lots of dogs at the park daily). How much a month is exelpet costing you each month to treat HW, intestinal worms and fleas? If you buy wormer online then it's usually MUCH cheaper than going to the vet or pet store.

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    Puppies can get worms and at this age he should be wormed monthly because they tend to eat everything! Now he has them you need to dose him again in 2 days and make sure you pick up every poo you can find and put it in the rubbish bin to contain the worms. Frankly Drontal is hideously over priced for what it is, I use the Ranvet wormers, like the no frills version for greyhounds when needed and worked fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy.Maree View Post
    It's hard to tell by the photo.. What size were they? Did they have any teeth? You're best to show your vet and talk to them. Exelpet and drontal both have praziquantel but other ingredients are different. While praziquantel does treat all worms, it is mainly just used for tapeworm.

    The proof is in the pudding really... If you notice worms, would you really keep using the same wormer? Pets are expensive and worming (along with vaccinations) are one of those things you just can't 'hope for the best' on. Maybe your dog needs a wormer with a different active ingredient. Milbemycin oxime is used in sentinel (fleas, heart worm and all intestinal worms), interceptor (heart worm and all intestinal worms, not fleas) and panoramis (heartworm, fleas and all intestinal worms but not tapeworm). You can but praziquantel tablets separately to treat tapeworm. Plus I'm sure there are many other wormers with a different active ingredient. Like I said, it only costs me $13.50 a month to treat one large dog for heart worm, fleas and intestinal worms (using sentinel) which I think is a very reasonable price and your dog would be cheaper as they are smaller... and in 2 years she has never had any worms or fleas (even though she is around lots of dogs at the park daily). How much a month is exelpet costing you each month to treat HW, intestinal worms and fleas? If you buy wormer online then it's usually MUCH cheaper than going to the vet or pet store.
    Sorry I should clarify.
    The wormer prior to me using exelpet all wormer was a tablet from the breeder it was a different one.
    Since I gave him the exelpet all wormer chew, I've seen worms coming out dead in every stool.
    I wasn't using exelpet all womer chews when he had the worms I just used it when he got them.
    Hope that explains .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    Puppies can get worms and at this age he should be wormed monthly because they tend to eat everything! Now he has them you need to dose him again in 2 days and make sure you pick up every poo you can find and put it in the rubbish bin to contain the worms. Frankly Drontal is hideously over priced for what it is, I use the Ranvet wormers, like the no frills version for greyhounds when needed and worked fine.

    Thanks yes I'm disposing of all his turds.
    I got told that I should re-worm him again in 10-12 days though, not 2... as it has a residual effect for over a week, and then monthly from then onwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar-schnauzer View Post
    Thanks yes I'm disposing of all his turds.
    I got told that I should re-worm him again in 10-12 days though, not 2... as it has a residual effect for over a week, and then monthly from then onwards.
    Good to hear ! Important that you keep on top of this - particularly while your pup is so young and you have seen evidence of worms. The pups can get very sick so quickly.

    Get yourself into a routine and it will become second nature !

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