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    Default Inflammatory Rhinitis

    Hi I am hoping someone may be able to help me. My 12 year ols rottie x boy has had a runny snotty nose for over 4 months now. He was sneezing and had a constant run of thick mucus. He has had 2 different vets scope him and take biopsies and also had a CT. There was no cancer (thank god!) or fungus and he was put on antibiotics. He has now tried 4 different types of antibiotics which hasnt really helped.

    He has fish oil capsules, Fess nose drops and caprieve (he cannot have prednisolone as he the worst reactions to it and loses all his muscle mass within a couple of days. The last time he was put on it he dropped to 35kgs (from 51kgs) and we nearly lost him.

    They are saying its inflammatory rhinitis and they dont know whats causing it or how to stop it. They said if it continues they would biopsy and scope again.

    Has anyone experience anything like this? I just dont know what else to try! I am willing to try anything to help him!

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    Join Date
    Aug 2009


    Have they ruled out allergies to something in his environment? Does it clear up if he's somewhere else for a while? What changed four or five months ago?

    Antibiotics are not going to help if it's a virus. Tho if it's green snot - containing bacteria - they should be able to culture that and identify an effective anti-biotic, not just randomly try different stuff.

    Have you tried contacting a university vet school? They might be more interested in a mystery case.

    After that - All I can suggest is chicken noodle soup. And maybe a chat with the breeder or rotti club in your state.

    Hope you find out what the problem is.

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    Dec 2009
    melbourne australia


    Inflammatory Rhinitis is caused by - unknown cause and the need for a detective come vet. It can be microbial or a toxin inhaled in its environment or a hystamine reaction, or cancer. Your vet is doing the correct tests, and biopsy's to ID what in your dogs case, is the trigger. So, its not cancer, its not microbial, therefore, that leaves, hystamine reaction.
    What's your rottie sniffed up and inflamed his nose?
    Its a rottie thang im afraid. they do tend to hoover up as the walk along. There's a lot of spraying in my area at the moment. Orange warning paint all over the plants they are trying to kill. Is anything like that going on near you?

    the drops are used to stop the snot and moisturize the nose
    the antibiotics take care of pathogens
    the steroids take care of hystamine reaction
    the biopsy checks for cancer

    and just like a crying baby, if nothing works. Start at the beginning, and go through each cause carefully, fully treating it.
    Steroidal reactions: alternatives can be found from other drug groupings. Like non steroidal anti inflammatory.

    Google it.
    Last edited by bernie; 05-20-2013 at 11:42 PM.

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    When they tested the snot nothing showed in it. Since being on the antibiotics it has now changed to a clear yellow. Still waiting on his last swab so hopefully will get that soon. The uni vet is now who we are seeing. I got a second opinion from them as they did the CT etc.

    It seems to be worse late at night and early in the morning which confuses me cos he is in the same room on the same bed! I have changed rugs thoroughly cleaned the house but nothing.

    Do you know if they can have injections for allegies as the antihistamines he is one dont seem to work.

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    It doesn't seem right that the snot has changed on antibiotics from a nice guzzy green (bacteria laden) to clear yellow (dead and dying bacteria) and those bacteria didn't show up in a culture (eg how clean is your house or embarrassing bodies) or on a microscope slide. Now, I'm wondering what the "test" was. They should also have been able to pick up pollen. Viruses are harder to detect but not impossible - might cost a bit tho.

    Early in the morning - just might be colder. If you have reverse cycle air conditioning - it may be from drying out / dry air.

    I'd be more worried about allergens from outside than inside, but inside allergens include mould and mildew and other yeasts and fungi - the spores of which can cause major breathing and allergy problems and often grow in damp places like the condensation inside windows and some walls. And often in roof spaces if they get damp. The longer the critter is exposed - I guess the worse the problem would get, so go to bed - and good at the start and then get progressively worse.

    Doesn't explain the change 4 months ago, unless it was very dry before than, and then it rained and rained and rained?

    I'd clean up the spaces by spray with a 1 litre spray bottle with 1 cup vinegar, half a teaspoon lavender oil and then fill to top with water, and wipe down with a mircofibre cloth. This gets rid of the mould and some bacteria and dust. If you can hang the bedding in the sun that would also be good - unless you've got plane trees which are dropping balls of itching powder at the moment.

    Yes you can get injections of anti-histamine - I don't know if the active ingredients are any different to the pills. If they're not working - it might not be an allergy. Or the dose or drug choice might not be right for your dog.

    Anti-inflamatories might help with some of the symptoms or discomfort, but they're not good to use long term and you can't give dogs the regular ones that humans take (aspirin, paracetamol, ibuprofen) - some of those are really bad for dogs. And it doesn't help if they don't know what the cause is.

    So how are things different at your place - inside and out at 6 months ago and now? How was your summer? Has there been some new plants around the neighbourhood? Road works? bus routes? Perfume? Cleaning products? Car? Daily habits? Extra dogs or cats or other critters? Diet?

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    Thought I would give a quick update on my boy. Took him to another specialist vet and they repeated the rhinoscopy and biopsies. He had started getting blood noses and was very sore and not a happy boy. The vet was very concerned with the fact it was only on one side and said it is not allergies and its all well and good to say he has rhinitis but you need to know whats causing it.

    So they did the rhinoscope and his nose is full of white fungal spores! He has aspergillus! They treated it while he was under so now we wait!! Hopefully it will do it and that will be it! At the moment he is very sore and bloodied but it will improve!

    So glad I got a second opinion!!!

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