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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    I had a vet tell me I needed to reconstruct my Dogue de Bordeaux's shoulder at the same age as your rottie because he was extremely lame - I mean walk 5min and not get up lame. She hadn't done an x-ray, that was her 'educated' guess.
    That really is amazing that a vet would suggest a shoulder reconstruction based on an educated guess without any scans! I have had to deal with a number of orthopedic problems over the years and decisions need to be made after a thorough workup by a specialist vet with the appropriate scans - xrays, CT or ultrasound combined with your own research.

    I just go straight to my specialsit vet who is also a friend and dont even bother with the general vet as they want to do x-rays and then you go to a specialist and they do them all again but often with better equipment and better placement.

    Once you have all the facts then you can make decisions. In some cases surgery is the only option in other cases other options can be tried out before going down the surgical route.

    Obviously it is always better if you dont have to go the surgical route but in the several occasions I have chosen that route it has fortunately worked out really well, they were both situations where physio and chiro didnt work because they were both problems that could only be fixed by surgery.

    In other cases chiro has worked really well. This is where you need to all the information.

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    That really is amazing that a vet would suggest a shoulder reconstruction based on an educated guess without any scans! I have had to deal with a number of orthopedic problems over the years and decisions need to be made after a thorough workup by a specialist vet with the appropriate scans - xrays, CT or ultrasound combined with your own research.

    I just go straight to my specialsit vet who is also a friend and dont even bother with the general vet as they want to do x-rays and then you go to a specialist and they do them all again but often with better equipment and better placement.

    Once you have all the facts then you can make decisions. In some cases surgery is the only option in other cases other options can be tried out before going down the surgical route.

    Obviously it is always better if you dont have to go the surgical route but in the several occasions I have chosen that route it has fortunately worked out really well, they were both situations where physio and chiro didnt work because they were both problems that could only be fixed by surgery.

    In other cases chiro has worked really well. This is where you need to all the information.
    Yup, without scans and a specialist opinion I don't jump into anything. What more worries me what about other people who put immense faith in their veterinarian? One of my clients has been handed a $500 surgery quote for a lump removal on her dogs shoulder, they never even did a fine needle aspirate or even squeeze it. It burst and pus came out a couple of days after the vet saw it and it's barely there now ... hmmm wonder what it is.

    I've had one dog put on tramadol and said her pain was severe arthritis in the hips ... turned out a dislocated tail.

    I just wish that vets would not give such definitive opinions until they have even just done the basics. You can't and dont know whats going on in an animal because you're trying to not only guess from outward symptoms but work through the dogs reactions as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    Yup, without scans and a specialist opinion I don't jump into anything. What more worries me what about other people who put immense faith in their veterinarian? One of my clients has been handed a $500 surgery quote for a lump removal on her dogs shoulder, they never even did a fine needle aspirate or even squeeze it. It burst and pus came out a couple of days after the vet saw it and it's barely there now ... hmmm wonder what it is.

    I've had one dog put on tramadol and said her pain was severe arthritis in the hips ... turned out a dislocated tail.

    I just wish that vets would not give such definitive opinions until they have even just done the basics. You can't and dont know whats going on in an animal because you're trying to not only guess from outward symptoms but work through the dogs reactions as well.
    Absolutely. I guess I am fortunate in that I have a close reletive who was a specialist surgical vet and I run everything past her if I can. She would always take the conservative route where possible, but would slice and dice where her many years of experience and all the relevant inormation from scans and tests told her it is the best course of action.

    I am also fortunate to have a local general vet (if you can call them local where I live LOL) who I have found is absolutely excellent and is also more than happy to discuss what I have already discussed with my reletive. I have found a few vets in the past get very defensive and about the fact that I am likely to run their diagnosis past my reletive, perhaps because on quite a few occassions they have been found very wanting and given very poor advice.
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    In the end you have to find a vet you can trust just like you do when you need a doctor for yourself.
    But don't give them an infallibility cloak, they are balancing consequences and side effects of any treatment and can get it wrong sometimes, of course......For both, I like the sort of professional who is willing to listen and answer questions..and.. will say if they don't know. Then I can find out who does.

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