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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderwick View Post
    In life you can read all you like, but you will never know the truth untill you seen it for yourself.
    only way to learn anything about dogs is to see it, no one can just give you understanding about anything, you can read all the books in the world, but you will never understand what was seen first hand.
    Jeepers, are you for real?

    I have seen plenty for myself in my life, and you know what? i wish i hadn't, i wish i had of read about it in the paper rather then having to see it and experience it. Yes, there are some things that truly do need to be seen and experienced in order for it to be fully understood, But not all of life, there is truth in reading about things, and to be honest i do not want to see everything, some things i am happy to read about and not have to experience, i don't want to experience over dosing, i don't want to experience war, and i do not want to experience my dog getting hit by a car or attacked because there are bitches in heat in our neighbourhood with other male dogs around.

    May i ask though, how your theory "you will never know the truth untill you seen it for yourself" works for the blind? or those who can't see things and rely on someone telling them things and "giving them understanding"? Not being a smart arse, legit question.

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    well i must admit you got me there, not sure how a blind person would get the same understanding as one that can see.
    i guess it would take a good understanding of the spoken language and the right person who has very similar understanding that was able to explain to them.
    but for the most part dogs are very visual creatures, and sadly they would only have second hand knowledge of the facts.
    but for them, words and touch can mean so much more than seeing could be for us because of there hightened scenes.
    but honetly i wouldnt know. havent had the privledge of meeting a blind person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    spiderwick

    I think you should take a look in the mirror before accusing anyone else of having no clue about the pros and cons of desexing dogs.


    All dogs are modified for living with humans - they are not wild creatures - they're domestic. If they're not modified for our convenience - and desexing is just one way - they aren't a lot of fun to have around the home. Just the fleas and crap alone would put me off.


    Most people? These would be vets, and people who work in dog shelters, breeders, vet scientists and animal behavour scientists. Yup they don't have a clue what they're talking about and you do?


    This is about as valid as suggesting you ought to try jumping off a cliff because you don't know what will happen unless you try it for yourself. One person's experience is "anecdote" not evidence. Just because something happens to one dog or one person - does not make it true for all dogs or all people.

    But my experience with your posts on the subject of desexing is pretty consistent. Does that mean everything you say is flawed? Probably not.
    well who knows, i'm not an expert, but know alot who are and have a great time talking with them and exchanging experiences and knowledge.
    i guess my experience as far as desexing go's has been a bad one, because of the way certain individuals tricked me into desexing my old pure breds,
    my first dog who i know the breeder would of loved to have used later on, well my second a bitch, the breeder said either desex the dog or no bitch to show.
    now i am a responcible owner and would of had no problems keeping them apart at thos times.
    just the way it was done wasnt a good one.
    and dont get me started on the bitch of a woman who worked her charm on desexing my show bitch.

    i do understand desexing can be good, but i dont encorage people to jump on with the band waggon.
    i have been with the dog world for awhile and do understand both sides, but prefer people atleast give it a go if they think they are ready to deal with what comes with owning an intact dog. and as sheena has mentioned she would desex at a later date, but would like to keep him entire for a little longer than everyone says to.

    sure they are domesitcated, but wouldnt take much to revert back to a wild animal.
    as studys showed with snow fox's, it took 6 generations to breed pet quality snow foxs,
    so if someone buys a dog from bad breeding, thats not hard to get a dog thats not very domestic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderwick View Post
    i do understand desexing can be good, but i dont encorage people to jump on with the band waggon.
    i have been with the dog world for awhile and do understand both sides, but prefer people atleast give it a go if they think they are ready to deal with what comes with owning an intact dog. and as sheena has mentioned she would desex at a later date, but would like to keep him entire for a little longer than everyone says to.

    sure they are domesitcated, but wouldnt take much to revert back to a wild animal.
    as studys showed with snow fox's, it took 6 generations to breed pet quality snow foxs,
    so if someone buys a dog from bad breeding, thats not hard to get a dog thats not very domestic.
    Sheenas main concern was that she was afraid of the health risks that she thought maybe attached to neutering her dog.

    When I was surfing I knew a number of young guys who didnt want to neuter their dogs. There were continuous dog fights on the beach, quite a nunber of those dogs met with a sticky end from escaping after bitches on heat and goodness knows how many bitches they managed to insemminate. One guy even dumped his staffy off at the pound because it kept escaping and he didnt believe in desexing. Crazy because the person who adopted it had it neutered and solved the problem. People often underestimate what is involved. It just takes one lapse of judgement, a kid or a visitor letting the dog out etc, not to mention randy males pounding on the fence from the ouside when you have a bitch on heat. You cant control other peoples dogs.

    Those same guys many years later all desex their dogs. Of course there are responsible people out there who can mage intact dogs but why you want to keep a dog intact when you never are going to breed it is strange to me. I cant imagine the frustration they must go through everytime they scent a bitch on heat or come into heat with nowhere to go. It doesnt seem natural at all.

    I usually desex my bitches around 9-12 months and the boys around 20 months which I consider to be a reasonable thing, to allow then to grow.

    Sounds like you have had bad experiences within the breeding community.
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    i whant to get nugget fixed but my mum dos not whant to and it migth wrick her lines
    shes the last pup from my ruby myar and her lines go back from 2011 to 1935 i was shocked when i found this out
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    Spiderwick

    and dont get me started on the bitch of a woman who worked her charm on desexing my show bitch.

    i do understand desexing can be good, but i dont encorage people to jump on with the band waggon.
    So glad you explained why you wrote what you did because it seemed like you were saying anyone and everyone who says desex is ill informed. When what you really meant was you had a bad experience with a nasty person and you regret getting one of your bitches desexed. Fair enough too.

    It will be interesting to see what OP decides in the end.

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    Hyacinth

    yeah i have a bad habit of giving half the info. and mostly the tail end of it, and confuses people sometimes.
    My friend has pulled me up recently on it. so starting to understand and think a bit more into what i'm writing or saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    It will be interesting to see what OP decides in the end.
    Not to sound stupid or anything... but what is an OP?

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    Original Poster I think, i am sure someone will correct me if am wrong.

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    Well turns out I HAVE to get him desexed at six months
    I really wanted to wait until he was atleast 12 months old

    But atleast mum has a good reason why... She does not want him to get any dog pregnant
    And I know if he did get out, if he wasnt desexed, I'd worry if he did get a dog pregnant... Most of the people here just give their puppies from unplanned litters away without really even knowing wether or not they are going to good homes

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