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    Wow.....How did it end up like this. You can always find examples of people doing things wrong, be it Breeders of pure bred dogs or owners of dogs who just let anything happen.

    It is up to people to decide to desex or not. Desexing is done to keep things simple for joe blow average......Anyone can keep an entire dog or bitch with a little extra care and attention and never have any puppies. I have often got undesexed males and females and do not breed. But in Bitches there are several reasons for their health to get them desexed, so if they are not excellent for breeding I get hem desexed. Having lost one bitch at 7 from Ovarian cancer, which is percentage wise incredibly more common in bitches over seven.

    However I keep my male dogs entire......testicular cancer is not a greater percentage and would definitely still happen if a dog had a vasectomy (maybe a higher risk). I have never had my dogs breed to bitches unless I wanted to breed. Lukey is a Stud dog Newfoundland. And in the past our Kelpies and GSD's

    But I study dog behaviour and I train dogs and let me tell you that the average dog is greatly interested in bitches in heat. And if they can will chase one down. In the show ring on lead we can all control our dogs, but hey,.......Left in an open environment, any normal happy dog would just go for it. A dog has to be kept contained/on lead/or under instruction if a bitch is within sniffing distance. They are after all dogs And it is normal behaviour.

    Most desexing is done, because most people do not have the safe environment ( good runs/fences) or the inclination to keep their dogs from getting into trouble. It is just easier to keep a desexed dog.......Less to worry about
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    xx_sheena_xx - when it all is said and done - your pup - your rules !

    I can understand your mum wanting the de-sexing done, so maybe consideration needs to be taken here by you as far as her rules are concerned ! If I remember correctly - you are living with your mum ?

    So information, your behaviour and your knowledge base is what you really need to convey to your mum to show her that you really know what you are doing here - and not something that she has to worry about being dumped in her lap - sometime in the future !!!!

    Take special note of the following and take it on-board - never a truer word has been spoken :

    'As Nekhbet said - I don't see the issue with entire dogs if you're responsible. Train him, socialise him, keep him contained and he wont be a problem at all. There is more risk of a dog getting out and causing a problem with their teeth then their willies.'

    So my question here would be - why bother with the expense of the vasectomy ?

    So, as far as my experience with dogs are concerned - with both male and female - I leave the de-sexing until the growth plates have closed. My decision is also balanced by the fact that the pups could be show pups, or not - if not they are de-sexed and that is my decision - because I have only control of what is in my yard - not what comes in !!! I have had both entire males and females here and have never had a pregnancy at my place - ever - !

    The research I have done on health risks associated with de-sexing - means that at least at this stage- that is when the growth plates have closed - I feel that the dog has no more or no less chance of having specific health problems that have shown up with early de-sexing.

    If you do a Mr Google search - you will see that there are more and more breeders going the vasectomy and tubal ligation way with their pups.

    So happy hunting !

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderwick View Post
    well, that's because there's to many breeders like a certain breeder who basically told me she would sell a pup to anyone, before mating 3 of her own bitches at once with her own studs and basically landing 18 puppys on ground at once, oh BTW shes a well know registered breeder.
    to top it off, she was going to fly off to the US to look at Stud dogs and leave a 23year old to dog sit for her, who she taught nothing too about dogs and basically manipulated.
    lucky he backed out before. so she went on trip and dumped on another friend who owns same breed for a month to sell pups for her while she went off hunting for studs.
    thats the class of breeder that seems to be in charge these days.
    That's a bit of a broad brush statement spiderwick. What evidence do you have that this is the 'class of breeder that seems to be in charge these days'?

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    Yes I live in my mothers house, but my dog is not here problem, nor will he ever be.
    I have asked her if she wants him desexed so he can't get a bitch pregnant, but at the moment she is more concerned about the fact that he humps things. I have tryed to explain to her that getting him desexed won't stop that because they are not cutting his penis off!!

    I won't be able to do agility trials with him if he's not desexed because he is not a purebred dog.
    My only real concern is that I would love a third dog (probaly wont happen), the council probably wouldn't let me if his desexed, and according to everyone I know you can't have 2 males to 1 female with it working well.

    His a beautiful boy, loving, already pretty well trained, happy and is very well socialised. Loves all people and all dogs that he has met

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    Quote Originally Posted by xx_sheena_xx View Post
    Yes I live in my mothers house, but my dog is not here problem, nor will he ever be.
    I have asked her if she wants him desexed so he can't get a bitch pregnant, but at the moment she is more concerned about the fact that he humps things. I have tryed to explain to her that getting him desexed won't stop that because they are not cutting his penis off!!

    I won't be able to do agility trials with him if he's not desexed because he is not a purebred dog.
    My only real concern is that I would love a third dog (probaly wont happen), the council probably wouldn't let me if his desexed, and according to everyone I know you can't have 2 males to 1 female with it working well.

    His a beautiful boy, loving, already pretty well trained, happy and is very well socialised. Loves all people and all dogs that he has met
    Sorry - but if your dog is humping stuff at his age - then that does not bode well for me regarding your training ability ! My two males that I had years ago - they never did that !

    Spend some time thinking about what you would like to do and achieve with this dog - then make the necessary decisions to make it happen !

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    Sorry - but if your dog is humping stuff at his age - then that does not bode well for me regarding your training ability ! My two males that I had years ago - they never did that !

    Spend some time thinking about what you would like to do and achieve with this dog - then make the necessary decisions to make it happen !
    I'm not even going to bother replying properly to that....

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderwick View Post
    like no ones collected seamen from a dog before, ever heard of an AI.
    No sense of humour obviously.

    Take a step back.

    I having working dogs and the best dogs are selected for breeding which is how you fix the best traits. I buy my dogs from a breeder who takes a lot of care in breeding quality working dogs. I make an assessment of mine over a period of 18 months and then I sterilise them if I dont think they will contribute anything extra to the working dog gene pool. I also screen then for the dysplasias. There are many responsible breeders out there.

    I remember I had one of my young bitches come on heat and I had every dog from miles around come visiting. It was a complete pain to be honest as I live on a farm and it put my livestock at risk (it also can attract in wild dogs) You cant control other peoples dogs. She then nearly died of pyometra 6 weeks later and had to have an emergency spay.

    To say the things you have said about people neutering their dogs really is very uninformed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xx_sheena_xx View Post
    Yes I live in my mothers house, but my dog is not here problem, nor will he ever be.
    I have asked her if she wants him desexed so he can't get a bitch pregnant, but at the moment she is more concerned about the fact that he humps things. I have tryed to explain to her that getting him desexed won't stop that because they are not cutting his penis off!!

    I won't be able to do agility trials with him if he's not desexed because he is not a purebred dog.
    My only real concern is that I would love a third dog (probaly wont happen), the council probably wouldn't let me if his desexed, and according to everyone I know you can't have 2 males to 1 female with it working well.

    His a beautiful boy, loving, already pretty well trained, happy and is very well socialised. Loves all people and all dogs that he has met
    That would be a shame not to be able to do agility. It really is so much fun for dogs. I do agility with all of mine plus RallyO. It is great training for your dog.

    Why not do a bit more research and think about why you dont want to neuter your dog. Why not wait till he has matured and growth plates closed. My boys are neutered once their growing is done, and are definitely boys!. They cock their legs, mildly squabble with each other and are full of sass.
    They are much less interested in bitches though which is great and I dont have humping, however they are my working and trialing dogs and I didnt have much humping before they were neutered anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xx_sheena_xx View Post
    Yes I live in my mothers house, but my dog is not here problem, nor will he ever be.
    I have asked her if she wants him desexed so he can't get a bitch pregnant, but at the moment she is more concerned about the fact that he humps things. I have tryed to explain to her that getting him desexed won't stop that because they are not cutting his penis off!!

    I won't be able to do agility trials with him if he's not desexed because he is not a purebred dog.
    My only real concern is that I would love a third dog (probaly wont happen), the council probably wouldn't let me if his desexed, and according to everyone I know you can't have 2 males to 1 female with it working well.

    His a beautiful boy, loving, already pretty well trained, happy and is very well socialised. Loves all people and all dogs that he has met
    The humping should stop once he is desexed though. Harley use to love his blanket and then he was desexed and it stopped. Why wouldn't the council let you get another dog if your current one is desexed? Most councils try and encourage people to desex their pets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderwick View Post
    honestly, if you have to desex a dog, it just prove you dont realy care for dogs, because you are part of movement to make them extinct
    if everyone did this to all the dogs in the world, what would be left.
    What?!

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