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    Cannot add much more to Pinkfest..detailed post extraordinary, so well written

    But I do add Slipper elm to my horses or dogs diet if they have some bowel problems and also some bran....It helped the "ferals" when they first arrived as they had all sort of issues.

    Slow bowel movements, reduced motility, can be due to genetics too. But often it can be caused by previous issues with constipation. It has made to bowel slower, smoother and larger.....

    We feed Oats and bran (RAW) with our meals (dogs) for those sort of problems.

    It cannot always be sorted and sometimes it is something the dogs or humans live with forever, same as some have irritable bowel and super fast action. Just make sure there is plenty of fiber for the dog. One of the reasons pumpkin/sweet potato often works so well is it fiber content. White rice is not really good. if you do use rice use brown. I like RAW oats better.

    In the human world we do give longer then 8 hours for the pellets to move on...some even 24 hours. As long as they do travel through, you will be able to manage. As long as something (poop) passes regularly and is of a good consistency you should be able to manage. You can joint the poop watcher Club, its free.
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    Good news the BIPS moved to Maxi's large intestine today yay... Prescribed Carafate (coats GI tract) and Maxolon (to get stomach moving faster) and now we begin the elimination process of which possible protein could be causing upset.

    I have opted to go the dry food hypoallergenic free Royal Canin so we have to feed twice a day and no other food is to pass his lips for 4-6 weeks. This will be a challenge within its self as Maxi is a bit of a floor vacuum anything has to be tasted.

    If this fails in that the chuck up continues then we try another dry if it still persists then it's an endoscope thingy. So I'm crossing everything that it doesn't come to this.

    I have been so glad of everyone's explanations about the stomach flora, and it makes so much sense. The only thing my boy even spewed up the bland after awhile. I have even tried the greek and even sheep plus lactose free yogurt when he was younger with not much success. Though I think I will try this again after he finishes his elimination diet and get his flora balanced and happy.

    When on the raw he had high fiber vege paddy made with raw oats, pumpkin, sweet potato, spinach, broccoli, banana, apple and prunes. He had a daily dose of slippery elm and vit C plus his Glyde supplement. Poos were good except when he started spitting up again like when he was on dry. He also did some of the pooing behaviours Pinkest described, searching for a spot and getting into position, back arching etc poos were well formed and of a good color and not smelly. The rice I used was rice plus packaging said it was supposed to be 40 percent more fiber than brown rice, it seemed to work but was evident in poos.

    I just hope he can eventually go back on raw because he loved it, especially his turkey necks and chewing on a meaty soup bone.
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    Thanks Newsfie - everything I now know - I learned right here on this forum - mostly from you and Hya!

    Hopefully Maxi is just suffering a protein allergy - Mum's old dog Lexi was allergic to just about everything going, and she was a hoover too... got to the stage of nothing but pasta and boiled chicken, and still she thrived. With the advances in food technology now, I'm sure that there will be some sort of answer {and comfort} around the corner for you and Maxi.

    *fingers and paws still crossed here*

    oh, and welcome to the world of poop watching!

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    I just had realization moment Been a poop watcher before Maxi came into our lives, my daughter had bowel issues when she was just a baby, it was prune juice every other day. At least with her it was a simpler fix to get things going. But it's like duck to water this poop watching again...

    The highs and lows and the downright bring tears to your eyes phew it's arrived.. Now what shape, color and odor is it?

    Thank you all again for your help and good wishes...I'll keep you all posted with updates on how things go. I just hope he loves this dry as I'm going to have to use it for treats, we start obedience training in two weeks time.
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    One of our vets is very involved in alternative therapies so there is information out there, just need to find it.

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    I like my vet, but he hasn't embraced alternative treatment plans, cause when I told him I'd put Maxi on raw he said he still needed a premium dry with and when I asked about slippery elm he said he didn't know the benefits of it. But on the other hand he was all for Maxi doing hydrotherapy after his knee ops. I think I need to learn more and ask a bit more about alternative treatments out there for Maxi. Before we go more general anesetic journeys.

    You are lucky to find one that keen to try alternative practices...
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    Well today was the first day Maxi hasn't had a spit-up, even after a gut of water and running around.

    Had to go to the beach this afternoon to encourage a poop, as he was very gassy (phewey) it worked but extremely dark, runny and stinky.

    First meal of the dry hypoallergenic food, he ate it (hoping it stays down). He didn't seem as excited for this as the steamed chicken he has had for the last 3 feeds. I'm really struggling with the fact I am feeding him dry again, because it feels wrong after knowing what he was eating whilst on raw and bland. Plus the fact it smells like Vegemite.

    Here's hoping the next poo is normal and doesn't take too long to appear
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    I know which is my dog's poop by the brown rice in it - seems to go straight through unchanged. And if you want to time how long your dog is taking from input to output - raw carrot or (tinned) corn - which ever is fed least often - works very well.

    I thought maxolon was an anti-nausea treatment - ie I take it to stop the up chucky feeling. I imagine it's the same for dogs. As far as I know it doesn't get the gut moving faster - that's the last thing I want when I've got the upchucky-runs. I don't think it's constipating though.

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    Well its 0 days since a spit up this morning we had saliva spits, one small and one clear slimy one after a gut of water. Now one this evening little chunky and gagging noise.

    Hyacinth, I thought Maxolon was to treat nausea. The vet said that it should help keep the food where it's supposed to be and thus encourage the digestion process. So I thought it would help improve the speed of time the food emptys from the stomach, it's my silly way of thinking.

    There was no need to go to the beach for number 2 today, it was not runny but still really stinky. Maxi struggled a little to pass it. Will keep an eye out, apparently one of the possible side affects of carafate is constipation. I will have to try the corn trick thanks for the heads up on this Hyacinth.

    Well Maxi hasn't turned his nose up at the dry or spit whole... But gee I'm really struggling with the fact knowing that there is better quality dry out there, and Maxi is starting to smell, He didn't smell when on raw.

    Hope people don't mind me giving a running commentary on Maxi's bodily functions, It's a great way for me to keep a track of what's going on and also I'm hoping that if someone thinks something is a bit Suss they give me a heads up, so I can get it vet checked if needed.
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    if anyone starts talking about their babies and nappies - I feel happy to contribute some doggy doo stories...

    at least I wait until someone else starts it... MC - it's all contained in a thread - so anyone who doesn't want to know, can easily avoid the thread. all good

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