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    Default To Shave or Not to Shave.

    Its been really humid where I live for the last 3 days.
    Today, a German Shepherd and a Border Collie came in, seperate owners, both shaved The only reason is because their owners thought they were too hot.

    Ok so for anyone that doesn't know...
    A lot of breeds, usually ones bred for working outside have an overcoat and an undercoat The undercoat is fluffy, while the over coat is rougher and more course. These breeds are designed like this to protect them from rain, wind and sun. Double coated breeds fur also acts as insulation in both hot and cold weather, so dogs with bigger thicker coats do not get hotter or colder than breeds with a single coat.
    By shaving a double coated breed, you damage the hair follicles, and the dog can't grow back the outercoat and remains fluffy. The negatives of this means the dog can no longer regulate their own temperature, the fur will then grow back very thick at the base and thin and wispy on the ends, some breeds have little pigment on their skin, so are more open to sunburn and insects are welcomes to the party of skin.
    Some breeds simply have an overcoat, which is course and short.
    The only breeds that should be shaved, are the ones with fur that continuously grows.

    Breeds that shouldn't be shaved;
    Double coats
    -Shelties
    -Huskys
    -Malamutes
    -Australian Shepherds
    -Pomeranians
    -Long Haired German Shepherds
    -Golden Retrievers
    -Border Collies
    -Newfoundlands
    -Spaniels
    -Collies
    -Cairn Terrier
    -Japanese Spitz
    -Borzoi
    -Tibetan Mastiff
    Outercoats
    -Kelpies
    -Dobermans
    -Rottwielers
    -Jack Russells
    -Dalmatian
    -Great Danes
    -Australian Cattle Dogs
    -Pit Bulls

    Breeds that should be shaved;
    -Maltese
    -Poodles
    -Schnauzers
    -Bichon Frise
    -Shih Tzus
    -Yorkshire Terriers
    -West Highland Terriers
    -Airdales
    -Havanese

    I hope this makes sense.

    ETA; Clipping and shaving are different things
    Last edited by aussiemyf7; 01-25-2011 at 11:53 AM.
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    Hi aussiemyf7

    I asked a question about this over at DOL recently.

    Was completely ignorant on the subject, simply clipped some breeds short during Summer thinking it was best practice.

    How wrong I was

    So thanks for posting this info, a really handy reference.

    Cam


    PS: the Cairn Terrier can be added to the list: Breeds that shouldn't be shaved; Double coats

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    We just make sure all the under-coat is groomed out and we do clip the bellies, sothat they dry quicker when hot.it does help
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    I'm probably wrong but I thought Westies had like an overcoat. Rougher on the outside to keep dirt and mud getting to the soft fluffy inside coat (like Cairn Terriers). Wouldn't it be bad then to shave them? Or are you referring to the really fluffy Westies that you sometimes see where you can't brush dirt out of their coat and consequently have to wash them more?

    I've still never heard of breeders shaving them, only trimming them :s

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    Most Westies get shaved. I got all my breed references from our clinic groomer today.
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    Clipping and shaving are different things
    Myf, I do not understand this. I clip my dogs (you probably know) as i use a clipper . I do not think I am shaving my dogs though...

    With my experience short hair dogs do not necessarily endure hot weather better. Even my minis suffers more when the coat is clipped to closely in summer.
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    I've been told that clipping is done with scissors(giving shape to the head, feet etc.)
    And shaving, well, shaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chipps View Post
    Hi aussiemyf7

    I asked a question about this over at DOL recently.

    Was completely ignorant on the subject, simply clipped some breeds short during Summer thinking it was best practice.

    How wrong I was

    So thanks for posting this info, a really handy reference.

    Cam


    PS: the Cairn Terrier can be added to the list: Breeds that shouldn't be shaved; Double coats
    I shave my Cairn/Staffy x to a number 10 because he just does not deal with the heat. He has a double coat when it grows out, but it's nowhere near as long as a purebred.


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    Who shaves a pit bull or ACD? I'm guilty of shaving my Bichon way shorter than I'm meant to!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra View Post
    Who shaves a pit bull or ACD? I'm guilty of shaving my Bichon way shorter than I'm meant to!
    Oh I just put those in to display the simple overcoat. I wasn't implying people shave them
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