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    Poppy and I just got back from her first grooming experience and I don't have any IRL friends with doggy knowledge to talk to so I wanted to post about it here and see what others think...

    I found this lady via her website. She doesn't JUST do grooming but a whole host of other things including but not limited to rescuing animals.

    So anyway heres how the visit went...

    We arrived and she looked all surprised at how little Poppy was. She commented that she was just a puppy in a surprising way but I had told her on the phone she was 7 months old.

    Then she asked where we had got her from. So I explained the story and my lack of knowledge and she immediately told me all about puppy farms and how terrible they are but then said "you are lucky you didn't get a purebred as they have so many health problems" So then I told her how I knew a reputable and registared breeder near me and had learn't a lot from her (I have the secretary of Cav QLD on my Facebook) and she said "those breeders are the ones you have to look out for, the registared ones are the worst".

    I wish I had had the confidence to say "I said REPUTABLE NOT JUST registared" but I didn't.

    Then she asked how much I paid for Poppy and if I had reported the seller to RSPCA. She had about 10 Kelpie X Staffy 6 and 7 week old pups that she had brought off someone and was going to rehome (sell) but she said she didn't desex them before they went (as they were too young) or microchip them.

    They hydrobath water was just from the tap so it was cold and poor Poppy was shivering the whole time. I thought they were warm baths but maybe I'm wrong!

    On the plus side, Poppy's bottom is all clipped so now she can poo without getting little matts and dags! And her nails are trimmed and so are under her paws and she is all clean and smells beautiful.

    But I'm not really sure if I will go back to her... Hmmm...

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    Hydrobath should have warm water.

    I wonder where this woman thinks you should get a dog from if nobody is allowed to breed?

    I think she sounds bonkers. You know how some people get when they get a bit fanatical about their favourite thing eg dog rescue or environment (cold water?) or whatever.

    And it's not good to deal with someone you find so intimidating you can't stand up for yourself. They use that to their advantage.

    It's good that she did the works eg nail clip and crutching (prevent dags).

    On the upside she probably knows everything there is to know about what she knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hydrobath should have warm water.

    I wonder where this woman thinks you should get a dog from if nobody is allowed to breed?

    I think she sounds bonkers. You know how some people get when they get a bit fanatical about their favourite thing eg dog rescue or environment (cold water?) or whatever.

    And it's not good to deal with someone you find so intimidating you can't stand up for yourself. They use that to their advantage.

    It's good that she did the works eg nail clip and crutching (prevent dags).

    On the upside she probably knows everything there is to know about what she knows.
    I was SURE the water was supposed to be warm! Poor Poppy!

    She was VERY fanatical and I can appreciate her passion bacause like you said, it means she is also very knowledgable but it just made me SO uncomfortable! After 2 minutes of being there I wanted to pick up Poppy and just leave!

    I also helped her do EVERYTHING which I didn't mind but I she she had of told me it would involve getting covered in clipped dog hair and getting wet coz I went in my nice work clothes! Maybe that was something I was just supposed to know.

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    Hi Amy86

    I suspect things like work clothes being kept nice are things that she is oblivious to. If you'd thought to ask - I'm sure she would have told you but it wouldn't have occured to her to volunteer the info.

    But on the up side - with a lot of people like that - you can be very direct. Just ask all your questions so that there is no right or wrong sound to them.

    Ie "tell me what's involved in a doggy service? Do I need to be there? If I am, how messy is it?" I guess if you think about it if you're hands on helping - it's going to be messy. So to her that would have been to obvious to warn you about. Or she doesn't notice all the fur everywhere. I'm sure a neat freak would have a hard time with a job as a groomer / rescue.

    If you do feel uncomfortable - it's probably important / ok to say. Ask for everything to be explained up front. Ask her why the water is cold - without pre-empting an answer or opinion. She clearly didn't notice you being uncomfortable so maybe she's a bit light on as far as people skills go. But you can usually be quite direct (blunt, not rude) with people like that.

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    Cold water! Poor Poppy.

    I always have mine really warm. Dog's core temperature is slightly higher than humans so what feels lukewarm to us is a little chilly to them. I always aim for the warmer side of warm (if that makes sense!).

    She sounds a bit loopy. If she's being paid for a professional service it should be just that, and not overly opinonated. Also if you're paying for the service you shouldn't necessarily be having to hands-on help - unless you're getting a good discount for doing so anyway!

    Plus - undesexed rescue puppies being adopted!! Eeeekkk!!! A big no-no. About as big as you can get in rescue!!

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    Dogs normal body temps is around 39 degrees, so washing her in cold water is just atrocious! Sorry, but that chick sounds a bit to me! I am so sorry you and Poppy had to go through that!!!
    Last edited by Cleasanta; 07-17-2010 at 06:22 AM.

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    Hy, thanks for elaborating. She didn't tell me over the phone I would need to help her but if she had I would of assumed I would get messy. All part of the experience I guess. Now I know what to ask over the phone next time!

    Natt - I thought that generally they were really warm. When I bath Poppy and home I make the water the temp I would bath a baby in, warm but not too hot! She usually loves her bath but I could see she REALLY did not enjoy yesterdays one.

    Clea - Thanks for the reassurance. I didn't think it was a "normal" grooming experience but wanted some opinions here. I won't be going back. Am considering trying a mobile hydrobath that comes to me or taking her to this salon I found online that looks really great. Any tips on things to ask to find a GOOD groomer/salon?

    She told me she advertises her dogs (the ones she rescues and the ones people surrender to her) on Gumtree and Petlink. So I searched her name in those sites and was very surprised that even her older dogs are NOT desexed! And she sells them under their "Designer" breed name, not their cross name!

    I mentioned that we had recently looked at a Cocker Spaniel and she cut me off telling me NOT to even touch those as they are a really dumb breed of dog and can be snappy. Then she proceeded to tell me she gets heaps of Cavs and to keep and eye out on those websites. But Im not sure she is the right person to buy a dog from.

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    Hi Amy86

    You might be able to do a site search of that other dog forum and check what they think of her. Someone who calls themselves rescue but rehomes dogs that are undesexed - is considered really bad news by most in the rescue community.

    And if she's offering you puppies ahead of time - me thinks there is a puppy mill or back yard breeder here. If the dogs were desexed, when they should have been there wouldn't be any unwanted puppies that need homes.

    Cavs and Spaniels - as best I can tell, are very similar when it comes to learning new things. Hard work. Not that I can talk.

    Another thing to consider, since Poppy did not enjoy the experience - there is a good chance she will object to returning there. For that reason alone - I would find a place that uses warm water, and doesn't expect you to get covered in dog hair.

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    I just tried searching her name and the name she posts under on Petlink on the "other" dog forum and found no matches. I then typed in rescue and the suburb she lives in and got over 1000 matches.

    I'm reluctant to start a thread about it on DOL in case she is in there! But maybe I should!

    With regards to the dogs, she wasn't offering me Cav puppies but more just A Cav. She spoke about how she gets heaps during the year and rehomed one only a few months ago. I'm not sure if or how she screens prospective owners but it all seemed very relaxed. Whereas with the rescue group I have recently been in contact with they were veryyyyyyy thourough about ensuring you were the right people that a particular dog.

    I don't think I will be returning to her! Too many things don't seem quite right!

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    There's a couple of people that get bitched about a lot on Dol for not desexing before rehoming and a bunch of other things. She could be one of those people.

    However I wouldn't start a thread about her either. You could PM puggerup and ask her. She would probably know. She posts on both forums, although I know she's a bit intermittant at the moment. Otherwise you could lurk a bit and see who the more respected rescue people are and pm one of them.

    But there's not a lot of point if you decide not to go back. Ie they already know who are dodgy, so it wouldn't be news to them, they'd just be able to confirm for you one way or the other.

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