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    I have read about using lime in the backyard to deter fleas. What are your thoughts?

    They are bathed a couple of times a week and a flea repellent rinse is used too, and bedding washed, sunshined and sprayed with diluted repellant. I will invest again in Advantage, stopped using these types of products because they appeared to be doing nothing (maybe cause I used Frontline) and I thought immunity was being built up~ so have been swapping products instead of sticking with one for at least 6 months (as vet has suggested).

    Options for the yard would complement the coat treatments.

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    Your Vet will be able to tell you which product works best in your area at the present time. At the moment I am using Advantix on my dogs which works well here but may not be the best product for your area.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you should be using flea rinses in conjunction with products like advantix or frontline etc.

    As for the lime it's not something I would be using in areas children or dogs have access to. There is a much safer and far more attractive form of outdoor flea control. It's a pretty little ground cover type herb called Pennyroyal. It repels fleas and mozzies and all sorts of little nasties. It grows best in cool climates but with care I can even grow it up here so it's a tough little plant once it gets established. Back in the days before all these clever little once a month flea products were invented my dogs and cats would instinctively roll in the patches of Pennyroyal to rid themselves of fleas. I still rub a few crushed leaves on my legs and arms to keep the mozzies away.

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    I've got penny royal growing next to my rain water tank and it doesn't seem to make any difference to the number of mozzies.

    A shrub called wormwood is supposed to be good for repelling bugs. It certainly repells me - very stinky.

    Theoretically you could put ant powder out for the fleas, or flea powder. Actually ant powder specifically says don't put where there are likely to be dogs, but flea powder - given you put it on the dogs - might be ok for the back yard.

    I keep the frontline up to date - ie every month I put that on her and that keeps the fleas off her. Though one of my neighbours insists that my dog gives his dog fleas - ie she brings them from the park with lots of dogs, and dumps them at his place for his frontline free dogs. Not sure how that works. I've only every seen one flea on her and I suspect it was more like his dogs gave it to her. And it was a very slow and drunk flea so I suspect the frontline was working.

    My neighbour washes his dogs with flea wash but neglects to wash the dogs' kennel or bedding or his furniture or his house or his back yard (how do you do that anyway). So flea wash only works until the next flea (hatches and) jumps on.

    Flea eggs tend to hatch out as the weather warms up - so now - in the southern states, is prime time for them.

    I wouldn't bother with lime. I don't think it would make any difference. The soils in my suburb have a lot of lime naturally and it makes no difference to the flea population. And pure lime is corrosive - not good for dogs.

    As for the washing - I think you are washing the flea protection off. Frontline says no washing the dog for 48 hours after application. And not to apply it to a wet dog. It's on the back. So I usually wash my dog first, and wait till she's really dry then apply it, usually after the afternoon walk - so that people who like to pat her don't get it all over them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhound View Post
    Your Vet will be able to tell you which product works best in your area at the present time. At the moment I am using Advantix on my dogs which works well here but may not be the best product for your area.

    Thanks for your feedback Deerhound~ A flea rinse was recommended yesterday that will last longer than the one I am using now, and is more economical than Advantage, and more useful at this stage because the yard is infested. It was also suggested that I have someone come in and bomb the yard, so getting quotes.

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you should be using flea rinses in conjunction with products like advantix or frontline etc.

    It's ok, I'm not. I started with Frontline over Christmas period, nothing happened so swapped to Advantage, nothing happened, swapped to....etc
    The rinse and washing twice a week, sometimes three is what I've been trying to keep up doing~ those times when only manage once a week things got over the top again. The sandy dirt yard is the source, and I'm in an old QLDr, so lots of dark places for their two year life experience.



    As for the lime it's not something I would be using in areas children or dogs have access to. There is a much safer and far more attractive form of outdoor flea control. It's a pretty little ground cover type herb called Pennyroyal. It repels fleas and mozzies and all sorts of little nasties. It grows best in cool climates but with care I can even grow it up here so it's a tough little plant once it gets established. Back in the days before all these clever little once a month flea products were invented my dogs and cats would instinctively roll in the patches of Pennyroyal to rid themselves of fleas. I still rub a few crushed leaves on my legs and arms to keep the mozzies away.
    I will seek out pennyroyal and some others at Bunnings and the organic store. Heaps of mozzies near the mangroves here too ~:-) The research on lime agrees with the corrosive properties you've mentioned, though it seems that if I do the yard, leave it for up to 48 hours, then deep soak hose, all should be good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I've got penny royal growing next to my rain water tank and it doesn't seem to make any difference to the number of mozzies.

    A shrub called wormwood is supposed to be good for repelling bugs. It certainly repells me - very stinky.

    Thanks for your perspective Hyacinth~ hmmm, I am keen to try the pennyroyal and the wormwood and a few others I've read about online. Really, didn't do anything for you? I wonder if it's the hybrid varieties, I will source some seeds from the seed saver banks for old style plants.

    Theoretically you could put ant powder out for the fleas, or flea powder. Actually ant powder specifically says don't put where there are likely to be dogs, but flea powder - given you put it on the dogs - might be ok for the back yard.

    I like the idea of the flea power in theory, only it would be very expensive methinks, the yard is large, and would not target the eggs like the lime would.

    I keep the frontline up to date - ie every month I put that on her and that keeps the fleas off her. Though one of my neighbours insists that my dog gives his dog fleas - ie she brings them from the park with lots of dogs, and dumps them at his place for his frontline free dogs. Not sure how that works. I've only every seen one flea on her and I suspect it was more like his dogs gave it to her. And it was a very slow and drunk flea so I suspect the frontline was working.

    Perhaps your neighbour could run a controlled observation study to verify their claims ~:-) At this point the vet thinks the spot-treatments are not enough for the plague in my yard. If I don't sort the yard methinks all else will continue to target only the symptoms and not the cause.

    My neighbour washes his dogs with flea wash but neglects to wash the dogs' kennel or bedding or his furniture or his house or his back yard (how do you do that anyway). So flea wash only works until the next flea (hatches and) jumps on.

    Yes, am doing the bedding couple of times a week too, and the floors in the house and their area near the bathroom with diluted kerosene.

    Flea eggs tend to hatch out as the weather warms up - so now - in the southern states, is prime time for them.

    Happy joy, summer is year~ and I already have a plague~ sinking feeling...

    I wouldn't bother with lime. I don't think it would make any difference. The soils in my suburb have a lot of lime naturally and it makes no difference to the flea population. And pure lime is corrosive - not good for dogs.

    I would like to test the lime because there is a lot of info out there about its usefulness, and if I keep the dogs in the shed and upstairs area for 2 days with lots of walks and play time they just might not go crazy.

    As for the washing - I think you are washing the flea protection off. Frontline says no washing the dog for 48 hours after application. And not to apply it to a wet dog. It's on the back. So I usually wash my dog first, and wait till she's really dry then apply it, usually after the afternoon walk - so that people who like to pat her don't get it all over them.
    I wasn't using the spot treatments with lots of washing. The washing couple times a week started when I gave up on spot treatments and swapped to rinses. The effect of the rinse lasts 3 days at most.

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    A few good tips here, Learning. Some of the links are even better.

    Flea Prevention

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    There is a new flea tablet out called Comfortis. My sister has used it on her dogs and she said it's great.
    Comfortis.com - Home
    The more people I meet, the more I like my dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsrule View Post
    There is a new flea tablet out called Comfortis. My sister has used it on her dogs and she said it's great.
    Comfortis.com - Home
    Thank you so much ~:-)

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    You're welcome. Let us know how you get on.
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