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    I want to take bernie to a groomer.
    I want the back leg feather sheared off. He gets very tangly dreadlock in this area fast, as the hair is crinkled, and drags in the bushes/terrain catching burrs.

    He is no longer self grooming his back end. Its down to me.

    How would you tackle this?
    He's a long haired GSD, that does not bite, BUT will certainly carry on like you've slit his throat.

    How long will it take?
    how much roughly would this cost?

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    I used to have a showbred BC with terrible long feathers on all four legs. No groomers out here so I got a sharp pair of hair cutting scissors and cut them off myself and shortened up the rest of her coat, especially her undercarriage to deal with grass seeds etc. She came up looking quite good and I think she was rather relieved too especially in summer.

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    I just use scissors with a biscuit bribe. A second person for the bribing helped.

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    I do both my BCs with sharp scissors - back feathers, tummy, back skirt (dense as!) and around the chest as we head into the wet season heat. It's quite a festive task as we all sit on the ground and they get progressively less hairy while I get progressively hairier. The old boy Oscar has hip dysplasia and hates his rear end being touched so the only way I can get at that is to have him lay down and very gently go to work with heaps of praise, turning him over and spinning him around as we go, treating it like a game. It helps that we have had a similar routine from puppy days with tick inspections and they came to view that as fantastic one on one attention sessions.

    I have used groomers before, but found it more traumatic for Oscar. Saffie doesn't give a sh!t, she's showbred lines - unbelievable how she's bred to stand like a show dog, accommodate all sorts of handling etc. without being taught. If I touch her back legs she spreads them like a champ, if I brush her she puffs her chest out like a lion. Oscar just squirms like a puppy and tries to run off looking for sheep. In Darwin.

    If you want to do it yourself I suggest turning it into a game and valuable attention time for Bernie, go slowly and don't worry about how it looks.

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    Ohh the back leg feathers (Pants as most groomers call them) are the worst if not maintained (by dog and human).

    How old is Bernie now? In an older dog I'd be taking health and comfort first so if his pants are matting up, shave em off!!

    Depending on how knotted they are its really up to you how long/short you want them. If they're matted to the skin, then they need to be shaved right off, if it is just lots of knots and tangles, then a good groomer should be able to trim a lot of the length off and then brush out the remaining knots leaving it at your desired length and blending it a bit so it doesn't look stupid.

    When you say he'll carry on, do you mean he'll make a lot of noise or he'll wriggle a lot? Wriggly dogs are worse than aggressive ones if you ask me, its definitely doable, but may take longer than on a dog who sits still.

    How long would it take directly relates to how still he'll sit for the groomer and what exactly you want done (do you want them shaved to the skin or say half off and brush out/blend?) If it was me... assuming he sits still and you only want his pants clipped/trimmed (nothing else, no bath or trimming anywhere else) I'd allow 30 minutes, but call you if it's earlier. I can guarantee you every groomer who knows what they're doing will say that they will call you when the dog is finished rather than giving a set time.

    Cost varies between groomers. I'd charge $30 to $40 depending on behaviour, but my prices are pretty cheap. Usually all grooms include a bath, so if you mention that you don't want a bath (I'm assuming you don't) they may be able to a special price just to trim the pants/groin area up.

    I'd also make sure you explain exactly what you want done! Make sure you specify that you ONLY want his pants trimmed, not his whole body. I've heard horror stories of groomers who have stupidly not listened to the owners and shaved dogs when the owner only wanted a trim up.

    I love it when owners come in and know exactly what they want rather than being vague about it.


    ETA: Or as others have suggested, just get some sharp scissors and give it a go yourself, however if he's got tight matts or dreds, that may be difficult.
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    I want the back trousers taken off. We went overseas trip without him for 3 weeks. I came back to his back end looking like a puli cross. I got rid of all the dread locks, cut a few out, spent a g e s on it. And 3 weeks of daily walks in marsh lands and they're coming back.

    Leave him? at a groomers? OMG! i cant do that! lol. I dont think he will like the groomers, so would want to stay to manage him, whilst groomer does the thang.
    He is 8, nearly nine, very arthritic and a massive hitch in his gait, from having a knee that dislocates in wind. and very sensitive about his back end these days. Will only let me groom him, the rest of the family, get bullied by his antics if they try, whereas im more stubborn, and wont be put off.

    He's never bitten anyone, but never has anyone other than family handled him before. Surely it would be best if i am there. Im not a neurotic owner, just have control over my dog, which who knows, maybe required as its the back feathers that are matting and need to come off, so he cant sit down.

    I'll enlist my hubby at weekend, get him led down, and gently cut those bloody trousers off. I have human hair clippers, can i use those on the dog? Once ive cut it back and short.
    Im not bothered how he looks at 9, i just want him free of burrs, with hair short that i can keep it brushed and clear.

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    A good groomer would let you stay if you explain to them why you want to stay.

    But yes, you can do it yourself. I know nothing about human clippers, but surely they're not that different from the dog ones? I reckon you could use them on him.

    I saw a cheap 'grooming kit' at Big W the other day, it just had some cheap clippers with what I assume was a #10 blade which is very short and what I use to do the groin on most dogs, I also use it to easily and quickly clip out matts from dogs pants. I regularly find myself doing that on BC's and Golden Retrievers. Never had a long haired GSD before, but it's the same thing. I did recently have to completely shave a long haired Malamute who was matted to the skin from head to toe... what a nightmare that was!!

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    "A good groomer would let you stay " or be unemployed! Goodness me, the cheek! lol
    Im teasing, im sure this is normal 'etiquette' to 'drop the dog off'. But i never have given my dog to someone else before.

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    The groomer I take Frosty to for claw trims and sometimes hydrobath - lets me stay. She (the groomer) is more comfortable if I sit where my dog can't see me but I can hear both of them and my dog whinging about the whole process. When it's just claws I stay and feed my dog treats pretty much continuously and the whole process is very quick. With her - there's nothing to clip really so I don't have to worry about that.

    All of the other customers drop their dogs off and pick them up later and the groomer has different sized crates and a dog run to facilitate that. She's really good with the dogs tho. She even trims the claws of an SBT that needs a general anaesthetic before the vet can do it. But vets can be crap at claw trims if it's not something they do often.

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    why? why wouldnt a groomer let me stay with my dog?
    out of sight of my dog. Hey, that's asking a lot of dog isnt it? How much support and guidance can i offer out of sight? seems odd. Why insist on my being out of sight, i genuinely dont understand??
    What is it they are attempting to manage, by having me near, but out of sight of my dog. ie. beyond my 'control zone'. He's tetchy on those trousers. For me. But he reigns it in out of respect. A total stranger groomer? on a high drive GSD, that has pain in his hind quaters, im worried about this now.

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