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    Hi everyone,

    My parents have recently adopted a four month old beagle x jack russell pup. I am attempting to convince them to feed a decent quality diet. I know they won't raw feed but I feel they could at least go with a good quality dry food (my dogs have taste of the wild or canidae) and meaty bones etc. They do not believe you should buy dog food that you can't get at the supermarket. Money is no issue for them. Their argument however is that "our dogs have always been fine on chum and pal, they lived for 15 years" and I really don't know how to combat that argument. I've tried to say it will be healthier but the response is "our dogs have always been healthy"! Wondering if anyone has a good line of argument or links to articles etc?

    Thanks!

    Natalie

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    The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?
    Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble

    reasons I don't feed supermarket brands - though some are ok if I couldn't do better...

    1. really large stinky dog craps and lots of them.
    if you change to a better quailty diet - the dog craps reduce and get less stinky.

    2. really bad dog farts
    again - avoiding tinned dog food like PAL and Chum is a good way to cut back on room clearing dog farts

    3. Stinky dog - that dog smell
    comes from bad diet

    4. Dog allergies - often changing the dog's diet can clear up all sorts of itches and problems like runny poo.

    5. sawdust is cheaper and about as good. Just read the ingredients - really - 90% of it is stuff dogs should not eat lots of. Like corn meal or beet pulp. And read the ingredients on anything a vet recommends, mostly they recommend it because it makes them money, and they might not if they actually read the ingredients.

    6. a better quality diet reduces the chances that puppy will go looking for missing nutrition elsewhere, like the leather shoes and other dogs' craps.

    7. On a better diet, your dog might live 18 years and spend more time healthy and active and less time decrepid and miserable. Same as a human who eats healthy vs one that lives on fast food junk.

    My current fave dog food is black hawk holistic. It's not perfect but I'm fairly sure my Grandmother would be able to understand what all the ingredients are.

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    Why not suggest one of the better supermarket brands? I know I don't like going to the pet store to buy food and honestly I prefer not to buy from places that sell animals which means I have to drive a long distance just to go to a specific store.

    There are plenty of decent foods available at Woolworths and Coles now, it's not all pedigree and chum.

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    Speaking of dogs eating their own POO, my daughter fostered a PB english springer spaniel for awhile..it ate ALL its own poo and any that any visitors ( Doggy not human) cared to leave as well.
    The vet suggested she feed the dog pineapple every day because that makes the poo taste offensive to those partial to eating it.
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    Many, many dogs do well on pal, chum etc from the supermarket and live very long and healthy lives.
    It is all a matter of choice and if your dog does well on it.

    Mine are on supercoat and raw and are thriving with shiny coats good teeth and health. Other dogs in the past have lived to the extent of life for their breed on supermarket pal and chum.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    I've sort of had the same issue with my Mums GSD x Rotty. He has been having really bad skin issues and they had looked at everything but diet (He is on Pal). I've been telling them for ages to change to holistic food and they never did, so I went and brought the bag for them. Hopefully he is finally changed onto it now and it makes a difference so that they will continue feeding him it.

    Saying that, if people don't want to listen they won't. I use to feed Harley Pal, he was healthy as but poo's were rank. When we got Bella we were given a whole heap of premium food and after seeing how much better it was we changed over. We were probably spending 30 - 40 dollars a week for supermarket food, and then changed and were spendign about the same for something much better quality.

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    he was healthy as but poo's were rank.
    and this is the part that people get wrong - just because a dog looks ok and is toddling around does not mean it's healthy. Stinky, sloppy and misformed poo is NOT a sign of a healthy animal at all, it means it's digestion is struggling with the diet it is on. Some dogs luckily can look good on an oily rag but long term, their body will suffer the effects.

    Foods are not what they used to be. Back when, some of the cheapies were not bad. Now, they are horrific. If they will only buy supermarket at least get them to try something like optimum, it's the least worst really.

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    I hate the supermarket foods with a passion, mostly because they fill the dry food up with corn (goes out the same way it goes in - undigested), and the non-dry is generally just ground up carcasses that they recompress to look like pieces of "meat" and then add a few token vegies (corn anyone?) and some gelatine slurry to make it "appetising". Blech and Blurgle. No wonder dogs poops are off with that filtering through their system!

    BUT

    Since Rosie has been ill with this demonic lump, if I can get to her eat ANYTHING I will consider it. Luckily I haven't had to revisit the tinned nasties, but she has now decided she only likes Pal dry food (was on supercoat, but now walks away from it) and Pal mini bones (the beef flavoured heart ones). At least her teeth and jaws are getting a good work out and I know that at a minimum she is getting some dog-specific nutrition, even it it is through additives. I can deal with her poops later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Many, many dogs do well on pal, chum etc from the supermarket and live very long and healthy lives.
    It is all a matter of choice and if your dog does well on it.

    Mine are on supercoat and raw and are thriving with shiny coats good teeth and health. Other dogs in the past have lived to the extent of life for their breed on supermarket pal and chum.
    Same here Di, Supercoat and raw for my furkids too.
    Been there done that with the expensive brands, mine have been on Royal Canin, Eagle Pack, Hollistic Select etc.... I found their condition (inside and out) was the same with Supercoat.

    Every dog is different, some can't handle the cheaper brands, but just because it's sold in a supermarket doesn't automatically mean it's just compressed corn and fillers My white poodle actually broke out in a horrible rash from Royal Canin so it goes both ways.

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    When I was growing up my dad used to feed our dog canned food and supermarket bikkies and I always remember at night time when we were all in the lounge watching TV, she'd do these silent but deadly farts, OMG, we'd all be running from the room she lived to well over 15 years old... maybe letting go of all that gas leads to longer life ...

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