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    Was down at my local produce and there is a new Dog Kibble out called "Uncle Albers"....
    22Kilo's for around $33
    As we are getting a few more Mastiff's we are thinking of going into a kibble diet and
    give the cooked meals every 4th or 5th day..Cooking all this meat is a hassle once a month
    even if it is cheaper..

    We were going to go straight to Royal Canine but with this BIG Breed dog and so many of
    them, we would be going through the stuff too quick, and for $119 a bag COME ON..

    Uncle Albers is a 100% complete food..
    I am def going to try this for my dogs and hope they LOVE it as it would save me time....

    Love to hear any reviews on UNCLE ALBERS

    Go here to see details Laucke Mills – Uncle Alber's

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    I've used both Laucke Mills products Uncle Alber's and Great Barko. Mainly because of it's high fat content which is required for two of my breeds 5 x Whippets, 1 x Borzoi. The pluses were it was good at keeping weight on and great to clean up after the dogs.

    I also gave it to my Gordon Setter and it made her hyper, not a bad thing, but since she has health problems we didn't want her running around the place like a mad thing doing herself extra damage.

    The Whippets liked the taste, the Borzoi soon went off it, but he's easily distracted from food.

    Lots of GSD people use it & highly recommend it for their breed from young adults and up. It's really heavy and it's certainly good value, but I wouldn't call it a complete diet any more than I would any other kibble complete.

    Is it suitable with it's high protein for a giant breed, I wouldn't of thought so??? Certainly not thru the growth stages Which is why I didn't give it to my Borzoi until he was older. Feeding a giant is not like feeding large, medium or small dogs IMO. So I consulted my Borzoi's breeder and other experienced Borzoi breeders on the diet best for him. I would do the same if I was you, give them the breakdown of fat : protein of Uncle Albers and see what they think

    In a nutshell I thought it was a very good product for my Whippets, but have since changed them to a mainly raw diet supplimented with Coprice Working dog which is even better value.

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    Yeah I currently use CopRice (not working dog) and my dogs do well on it.
    But only because they get all the good stuff from all the food I cook.
    The food I cook for them would be the same as me giving them Royal Canine
    Kibble everyday..
    If I was to give them a kibble that was a complete diet, they wouldn't need the
    meat I give them..
    I'm just looking for a cheaper alternative so I can still give them meat but only like
    every 4th or 5th day and the rest kibble and bones ect .....
    Trying to cut right down on the cooking lol ....

    Where I got one of my dogs from, they had 20 Pairs of Dogues and they feed kibble
    and bones only and they buy the kibble in by the ton ..And they said it is a cheap
    low grade kibble.So it makes me wonder...None of the Kennels will give away their
    cheap secrets.I have asked a few and they all swear they feed Royal Canine or some other
    brand that costs around $120 a bag for only 12 kilo's..

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    I'll give you a little tip I learned years ago. Contact Dogue breeders overseas, look for websites then contact them via email. Look on your dogs rego papers as see if there are any imports and try contacting them via email.
    Tell them you are not getting much help from Australian breeders so thought you would ask overseas breeders. They may not have the same products but if you tell them what the main ingredients are they may have some ideas.

    If your breed mentor says it's OK then I'd be happy to go with it , low grade kibble is often better than the fancy ones for the large breeds in my opinon for several reasons and if you look back on the natural way a dog is raised you'll see why. But I'm only giving you my opinion and I'm certainly in no ways a giant breed specialist.

    But I'll always maintain a kibble is a kibble, it's cheap, easy and affordable. For my Borzoi I had to suppliment his calcium and his Vit C, I supplimented the calcium very much thru bones but also syrup, chicken frames, cottage cheese etc, he went from puppy kibble to adult working dog very quickly as myself and his breeder could see he was going to be a big dog (there is not top height standard for Borzoi) so I had to make sure his growth was steady rather than rapid thru too much "good" food. And I think you would be looking at the same thing. As for your adults I think Uncle Alber's would be fine. You can only try a food for a few months and assess you dogs, it's puppies that I'm very careful with.

    Out of interest are your dogs in the show ring? Does your bitches breeder consider her a good specimen to breed from? The breeders of my dogs have been highly interested in their dogs and off-spring afterall it's their name behind them.

    Some big breeders will also get sponsored by pet food companies.

    I can see no quality difference between CopRice and Uncle Alber's they are pretty much on par, one just says they are a complete diet.
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    Awesome MAC

    I will give it a go and see how my dogs go on Uncle Albers
    With regard to the show ring..
    No my dogs have not been in the ring as I have looked into it and it
    all seems way to out there to me.
    I have everything I need to know about putting your dog in the ring
    and still don't get it...
    However, I am going to give it a good look at as I really need to start
    entering my dogs...
    My mentor told me that once I get my own line I am on track.
    Meaning, once I breed a dog with my own Kennel name..

    I love my Mentor but she only gives out little information
    and the rest is for me to kinda figure out...
    It's like everything I guess, you learn along the way.

    I will get onto the over seas breeders and find out
    info also

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    I agree with Mac that you need more info. looking at the ingredient list i see a few things that i do not like for large/giant Breeds. Most my info and learning comes from my Mentor who has bred newfies since the sixties and has improved the lines and from overseas where I am on some specific newfie only forums, where we learn form some incredible people who have been breeding, showing and working their newfies. And my many years of owning newfies and luckily I have not had any ortho issues except one Osteo arthiris ( which is just bad luck), ultimate newfie breeders want to work their newfie( Agility, drafting Rescue work and Obedience) and wants a really sound strong dog, which your breed should be too. Their needs should not be at all different

    I would not like my dogs to have so much wheat. I have looked at the proper label too and after all it comes from a flour producing mill.......The new system of feeding giants now is lower protein, unless it is in pure form, RAW meat and bones should be the only way calcium is added to their diet. I have also highlighted the other stuff I do not like in my dogs diet, unless I know the specific source of it (soyabean come to mind, they put the O/S soy in dog food) And canola is not good for the eyes......

    I am not a rep for Black-hawk, but it about the only dry I would feed to my dogs if I was Breeding (or not). And you have to feed much smaller quantities, because it does not have as much bulk. And Has many thereapeutic additives for our large breeds, including Emu oil
    INGREDIENTS
    Uncle Alber's is formulated from a selection of the following ingredients. Cooked meat or meat by-products derived from beef, lamb, poultry or pork. Cooked fish or fish by-products. Fat, cooked cereals and wheaten bran. Products derived from canola and soyabeans. Lysine, methionine, antioxidant, bentonite, vitamins and minerals.
    Vitamins: A, D3, E, K, B1 (thiamine), B2 (riboflavin), B6 (pyridoxine), B12, niacin, pantothenate, folic acid and biotin.
    Minerals: Calcium, phosphorus, sodium, chloride, cobalt, copper, iodine, iron, manganese, selenium and zinc.

    Anyway just my opinion.......
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    Well there you go, an opinion from a giant breed person on the levels of wheat and protein suitable for giant breeds.

    After reading Newfie's post if your bitch is in whelp then I'd certainly keep her on your prepared meals if they are well balanced and see whether you can get any help on diet from an overeas breeder.

    There is a reason breeders charge good money for giants, they are much more work in a lot of areas and not in the way most people think.

    I'm a big lover of many of the giant breeds as I love more laid back dogs these days, but I'm glad I fell in love with the Whippet, they are a breeze in comparison but are still chilled out.

    I do have to say, in the area of diet, that my stud dog (Whippet) has been helping himself to wild rabbit every couple of days, this combined with the raw diet that I prepare and he has never looked so good. He hasn't had kibble for a couple of months now.

    Finding cheap meat is a matter of tracking things down, I have Summertime Chicken processing plant not far from me so buy direct from them for chicken. I can't buy anything under 12kg, not a worry when you have several dogs. I travel to Canberra Meat Works for red meat and travel back with esky's full. It's worth the trip. Hunt around and see what in your area for cheap meat. I bought an old chest freezer at Xmas off ebay $25.00 so now I'm going down the almost all raw food diet road.
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    My dogs love fresh whole rabbit.......the whole lot. we really love RAW, but I know it does not suit everyone, so i can understand the looking for dry food. My dogs are veggie freaks by choice, see my videos

    We have a huge freezer, also bought very cheap and every time we see a opportunity we also seize the moment (meat). My dogs also eat RAW fish and that can be bought from the fish markets cheaply (bait fish) and fed whole. Natural Omega 3, iodine and calcium/phosphorous.

    You start to think in a certain way and you just find cheap healthy food all the time

    Get friendly with the Butchers, we initially got small bone and little bits and pieces. One Christmas we let the dogs bring the Butchers their Christmas card and biscuits in a basket carried by Annabelle..they loved it. Were amazed at the size of the dogs and now we get cartons of bones for the same price $5.00/carton...they get us lamb's fry for $2.00 and a lot of offal for free.

    Annabelle pulled the cart in last year with a carton of stubbies for them at Christmas and Katy carried the card.........They just loved it and have been very generous with us.

    Get people to like your dogs and it is amazing how many people have connections to good dog food. We got another supply of bait fish that way.......
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    Absolutely Newfie, haven't met a butcher who doesn't like dogs.

    Our butcher has a mini golf course set up at his place, the putting area was being eaten out by rabbits, so we helped him out one day on dusk and are now welcome anytime.

    Mickey is eating whole raw rabbit, uncleaned because he's catching it himself. Hadn't thought much about whole fish, will have to look into that.
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    I got me a bag of Uncle Albers and the dogs have been eating it for 8 days now.
    Both dogs have sores from head to toe over their entire body..
    The sores look like the skin has boiled they are round sores about
    the size of 5cent pieces.
    I took my dogs to vet and he said it was from hot weather which we just
    had a bout of..
    He said it if was the kibble change it would take about a month or at
    least a few weeks to show up on the dog..
    Personally I believe it's from the kibble, they must be allergic ????

    Honestly 2 dogs break out in a rash from the heat I doubt it...
    Looks like their skin has boiled up sores...

    I need any advice / opinions ..Maybe someone's dog has had an
    allergic reaction to dog kibble, if so what did it look like ??

    I have stopped the kibble ...

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