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    Annabelle;
    Raw beef mince, cup measure and some form of fish be it tinned sardines from Aldi's or raw from the fish place. Every second/third day she gets lamb's fry or ox liver 1/2 cup or any other offal. But i use mainly liver, because she loves it.
    Often I add grated carrot, peas and any blanched or blended green veg to this. whatever comes out of the veg garden. In total it makes about 2 1/2 cups of food
    She gets a beef or lamb bone most days
    In the evening they get 1/2 cup of beef, cooked with 1/2 cup of rice and 1/2 cup of the grain mix (soup mix) The rice and soup mix is soaked overnight. So when I finish the last of the cooked mix, I soak the rice and soup mix. I add the beef in the morning and put it in a microwave dish with lots of water and on 6 for 24 minutes (no lid, because it makes a mess). When it is cooked I mix in a cup of rolled oats and put a lid on it and on to fridge when cool. The cooked mix lasts two evenings for our three dogs. But Annabelle only gets a 1/8 of it every evening. The other 1/8 goes to Tessa and 1/4 goes to Katy, who is a growing girl. Sometimes we add an egg. If the chooks have been busy. e feed twice a day, because newfies are prone to bloat. We are quite rigid with feeding time, Six and six, because of this. Sofar I have had newfies since the eighties and no bloat, cross fingers..........
    Annabelle does not get chicken. Only lamb and beef. it seems to be the only way to keep her hot-spots and eyes/ears OK. It is the preservatives and god knows what in the chicken that causes her issues. free range chicken from home is fine and so is organic chicken. but it is expensive. I think it is the preservatives and such that cause all the problems, not just the food type.
    Annabelle only gets cheese, not the "plastic" type and microwaved home made liver for training treats. Any sausage or sandwich meats are taboo. As are Frankfurt's. Never any biscuits/cookies or any breads, EVER..........We are very strict, but mishaps do happen and they are often unintentional. Annabelle had a proper allergy test, with skin pricks on a shaved belly area. We have a pile of preservative numbers to avoid, we just avoid all.
    Anyway good luck..........

    Annabelle's eyes from just one sausage treat



    And normal eyes
    Last edited by newfsie; 01-16-2011 at 03:10 PM.
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    Thank you so much, I never even for a minute thought about preservatives in the chicken and they would have chicken nearly every day. We have been avoiding beef and beef products at the advice of a holistic vet.

    Perhaps I need to cut back on the chicken carcasses and increase the roo tail (which is very hard to get atm) and lamb flaps. I like to give them something that gives them a good chew in the morning. They seem to be less interested in misbehaving if they have had to work at their breakky. (not that they are particularly naughty, but she is still very much a pup so will find trouble if she's in the mood) I wonder if I can find a local butcher that would do lamb hocks like the pork ones!

    I don't like to cook any meat they eat but that doesn't mean I couldn't mix raw meat with the 'grain mix'. I do have to ask though, why do you give them the 'grain mix'? I ask simply because there are so many differing opinions on whether dogs are pure carnivores or not and so forth, I'm interested in the opinion of someone who's found something that works (for you anyway).

    Ours don't get anything like sausage meet or anything processed, they don't even get cheese, the only dairy they get is natural pot set yoghurt. All their training treats are preservative free so they're ok.

    I am guessing there is a preservative in the kibble (will read packet tonight at home), so may need to find something else to put in the treat ball and kong.

    The photo of Annabelle's eyes is identical to what Boof's look like. He has been scraped and it's not mange, he was scraped as Lilly developed Derma... (sp) mange when she was desexed. Her's is all but cleared now. I have never noticed anything odd about Boof's ears though and his 'spots' are more like welts and after the VAN muesli, they were pussy pimply looking things.

    Actually, now I think of it, while we were away, mum bought a new bag of bikkies and they were the best of the not great (she tried her hardest) and he was starting to scratch at his ears. They've had no more of them since we've been home and he has stopped scratching now.

    MMMM to make a few changes and then I'll update progress. Thanks so much Newfsie it's great to have someone that's willing to share their experiences and what works.

    I am well aware of the food issues in the human world (I'm gluten and casein intolerant and mum is a ceoliac) so I probably have a good foundation, but there are things I'm still getting to learn (clearly from what you've taught me in just these few posts) about the dog world.

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    I give grain mix because if i don't, my dogs go over to our stables and hassle the horses at feed time ( they still often do). The cooked meat at night is only a very small amount and it is more my idea to make it more palatable, probably totally unnecessary......
    Also remember that the dogs in the wild like to eat the stomach/gut contents of grazers and this does include veg/fruit/grain. But the stomach has already started the breakdown with enzymes hence the cooking and/or blending. Otherwise it is like when my dogs eat the horsefeed. comes out the same way it went in LOL...Not that that matters at all. When your dogs are not used to lamb i would start slow, because some dogs get the runs if it is fatty lamb. mine don't. i am a poop watcher from way back and my dogs are always good and firm. if too dry, I stop the bones for a couple of days if starting to get soft, I increase bones/ grain. Checking out their poop is an important part of dog feeding that will tell you lots as to how they are handling it all.
    I also often feed yogurt, especially to my pup. natural yogurt.
    I love roo meat, it's great, but beef is my lifesaver as we have our own, no hormones, grass fed beef, the way it should be.........Rabbit is another favourite when people go shooting
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    they get lamb now at least twice a week... they both love lamb flaps.....

    ok so perhaps the soup mix a few nights wouldn't hurt thanks, the neighbours have huge vege gardens so I'll give them the heads up that any excess or not so perfect the dogs will have, will be sure to blend first for them!

    mine will eat nearly anything so certainly don't need to make it palatable, lol (lil hoovers)

    yeah I do watch poop too (only because most of the time they poop on our walk so I have to scoop the poop), we would love acerage and if/when (that's the positive thinker) we get some, it will include a poddy or two to eventually have for dinner

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    You said, "As a general rule the only time they get kibble is in their treat ball and kong when I go to work so they are kept occupied. "

    I would expect their hyperactivity is more a result of you being at work rather than the kibble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leema View Post
    You said, "As a general rule the only time they get kibble is in their treat ball and kong when I go to work so they are kept occupied. "

    I would expect their hyperactivity is more a result of you being at work rather than the kibble.
    Sorry Leema I can't have been clear. They are fine if they get kibble in their treat ball during the day. They don't do the over reaction to us coming home at all, yeah sure they are happy to see us, but no jumping or anything.

    They get hyperactive IF I give them kibble with their sardines/tuna/salmon as a part of their night meal. Which they get a good half hour after I'm home, after we have had a play and done some training.

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