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    Hi All,

    I'm new here. I was a stalker over at DoL forums, but since I have 2 crossbreeds, I was afraid if I signed up, they would come after me LoL. Luckily I found this forum which states crossbreed in the title...ahhh I'm home.

    I have one dog a LabxBorder Collies (Boorador or Labracollie), and as of this weekend will have a playmate for her, a toyboy (LoL) who is a Kelpie x Border Collie.

    Lila (Labcollie) is 8 months and Benji (Kelpcollie) is 4 months.

    I want to get them on a proper balanced diet, whatever is best for them.

    I don't, however have time to research for ages, as I have 3 little kids and a lazy hubby LoL, so I already have my work cut out for me.

    I have heard BARF is quite a lot of researching, time, trialling & errors, so was thinking a compromise that I saw one breeder feeds?

    So something like Canin/Uncle Albers sometimes mixed with chicken mince and raw bones?

    Does that sound okay? Right now my dog is on everything LoL, she is the garbage tip, she will and does eat everything...with no consequences, amazingly. She has optimum dry food mixed with optimum or coles brand (yes I know, smack me) wetfood, and has bones nearly daily (chicken necks, giant beef bones etc) The puppy is currently just on pedigree or something else like that dry food.

    So does anybody have a me-and.you? (MENU) or opinions??? Any help is appreciated, I just really want to get it sorted out before new pup comes, I know I will have to introduce it slowly (with the puppy at least).

    Looking forward to hearing from you

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    hello and to the forum

    What to feed my dog? I guess you will get 10 different answers from 10 different people who are convinced that they feed the best food available In the end it will depend on what suits you and your dog. Your dog might prefer some food over others and her looks will tell you whether the food is good for her. But you also need to find something that suits you and your lifestyle.

    My girl gets a high quality dry food as her main diet. In addition, she gets bones about every other day, sardines and an egg once or twice a week and meat cut-offs, fruits and certain veggies whenever they are left over or just in between.



    Oh and by the way, we really need pics of your pooches

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    Yes, everyone has their own opinions that they are doing the best thing. They ARE, for their dogs. It boils down to finding what yours does best on.

    Mine are garbage gutses too and will eat anything. I have them on supercoat with daily raw (chicken wings, necks, beef mince, minced chicken carcass, lamb ribs, suitable table scraps.) with the odd raw egg, sardines for shiny coats. They have their own shelf in the freezer and I just defrost one lot daily. Vet always compliments me on how healthy and shiny they are.

    I had a blue heeler that lived and thrived (no shiny coat though) on pal meaty bites and pal or chum, the odd bone and table scraps for close to 15 years.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Depends if you don't mind spending lots of money and not thinking about it or you want the cheapest that's ok.

    I know people who feed supercoat and home made casserole and their dogs do ok. I feed home made casserole and nutro natural choice (expensive), and might step up to artemis (more natural ingredients in a dry dog food) but she's fine (shiny coat and fit and no runny poo) on nutro.

    If I don't have time to make casserole, I feed dry with half a can of sardines (in spring water or olive oil) on top. I really can't be bothered with any of the tinned foods available. As best I can tell they are mostly something like chicken stock mixed with a lot of sawdust (corn meal, rice meal, peanut husks etc) for texture.

    As for garbage guts, that can be ok and it can be trouble. There are a bunch of foods that in large amounts can be very bad for your dog - eg four raw onions = trip to vet. Leftover spag bol - probably only stinky farts. Walnuts bad, peanuts ok. Chocolate - extremely bad - so don't let your dogs trip out at Easter time. Carob ok.

    etc etc.

    These two american sites will help you work out what to look for on the ingredients list.
    The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?

    Dog Food Analysis - Reviews of kibble

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    Hi,

    I used to feed Hills Science for my puppy but i don't do that any more as he grew up and they are very healthy. I feed kibbles with low fat plain yogurt from supermarket (mainly Beneful or Supercoat which ever on sale) in the morning . I feed raw meat (mainly lamb off cuts and drum sticks, raw bones) only at night for toileting purpose. I do feed left over in the morning replacing kibbles. feed vegies/fruit as snack. Lamb liver/egg as treats. My dogs can taste whatever we eat and they are not fat and got approval from my vet. My dogs love tin food but they hardly get it as I am too neurotic about toileting. (I hate runny faeces-yukky to clean)

    By the way I think as long as they get bones at least a few times per week and some dry food as main, they are ok. My schnauzer breeder recommended pedigree.

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    Thanks everyone I have a bubby asleep on me atm, but will introduce & show photos later.

    Thanks again for helping

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    Hi and welcome

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    I feed Nutro senior to Atlas and Nutro Adult to kaos, both do very well on it, with a mix of bones and fresh mince

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    Yes, everyone has their own opinions that they are doing the best thing. They ARE, for their dogs. It boils down to finding what yours does best on.

    Mine are garbage gutses too and will eat anything. I have them on supercoat with daily raw (chicken wings, necks, beef mince, minced chicken carcass, lamb ribs, suitable table scraps.) with the odd raw egg, sardines for shiny coats. They have their own shelf in the freezer and I just defrost one lot daily. Vet always compliments me on how healthy and shiny they are.

    I had a blue heeler that lived and thrived (no shiny coat though) on pal meaty bites and pal or chum, the odd bone and table scraps for close to 15 years.
    Thats pretty much what my kelpie lives on. half a small can of chum, a few hands of supercoat dry food and table scraps (but not cooked bones or anything with sugar or onion in it) hes 2 and he's really active and this seems to keep him happy and healthy. he also gets marrow bones cut in half that most butchers will sell and cut for you.

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    Hi there and welcome, looking forward to pics of your guys.

    As you guys know, I have five dogs and all but one are large breeds, three are fast growing puppies. I've done a lot of researching on dry food recently. I'm sold on the raw meat and bones diet and my butcher gets me HG beef mince with no preservative for $3/kg, plus all my bones, necks, etc. which are cheap.

    I have always tended to go for what is called 'premium' dry dog food, but since my research, have found that for the price, even many of these brands have questionable content. As I understand it, grain is not a necessary or good part of a dog diet, preservatives are not good, neither is the 'meat by-product' category, which seems to open the door for all sorts of gross things to be put in.

    Other than going for the american brands, which seem to lead the way in delivering good ingredients for the huge price tag, even the premium brands of kibble on our shelves seem a rip-off at best.

    Sooo...... I have five dogs who I simply cannot afford to feed american kibble to (I have been feeding a mix of Royal Canin, SD, Beneful and Greyhound Biscuits). I have come to the conclusion that they can do without the kibble all together and even with the extra meat I will buy, it will be far cheaper. They already get brown rice, veges, sardines, fish oil, probiotics, etc.

    I honestly can't see any difference in them from eating premium dog kibble or supermarket brands, although I'm sure the ingredients are more dodgy in the latter.

    I have a couple who have sensitive skin and they do just as well on Beneful as on Royal Canin - go figure.

    My main objection to kibble is that it seems that you have to pay huge amounts of money and possibly import to get something that contains basic, easily accessible ingedients.

    I do want to give up cheaper kibble, considering that it often seems to have meat by-products, grain fillers and preservatives in it. And it is still not that much cheaper, in comparison to raw.

    I agree that kibble is more convenient, but money being tight, I'd rather get more value for my buck and spend a few more minutes preparing stuff.

    I have thought of making my own kibble - does anyone do that here? I have a recipe for doggie tuna triangles, but it does have wheat flour as a main ingredient. Maybe that would be okay if that was the only grain they were having - it works out pretty cheap and they freeze well, have no preservatives, etc.

    That's my 2c anyway.....lol.

    Cathy.

    P.S - I stalk on the other forum too, but although I have two poodles, I also have three crossbreeds (all rescues) and not sure how that would go down, lol.

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