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    Default Natural Diets - So Confusing!

    Hello,

    I've been trying to understand what is the best diet to feed our puppy. What I have been doing is supplementing his kibble with some "extras" such as raw beef mince (human quality), raw eggs, plain steamed veggies etc. based on some of the posts i've been reading on this forum.

    the reason we are not going for a completely natural diet is I just don't think we have to knowledge to keep him healthy without the kibble.

    he hasn't had any bad reactions to anything; but i just came across this list for foods you apparently are not meant to feed your dog and it includes raw eggs among the foods that can be dangerous to dogs!!


    Foods You Should Not Feed Your Dog


    can anyone please clarify what is and isn't ok to feed them? i desperately want to do what is best for him but can't seem to get any straight answers

    TIA for any advice!

    ps. our vet advocates a kibble diet so i'm a bit on my own...

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    There are lots of threads on this if you trawl back through the pages. The search feature should help with this too.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Re: eggs, have a look at this thread:
    http://www.dogforum.com.au/dog-food-...-too-many.html

    Have a look in this section, especially see this one http://www.dogforum.com.au/dog-food-...w-balance.html the OP has been deleted but it's still chock full of good info.

    Raw feeding is IMO not so difficult - I don't weigh out portions of my own food according to my daily nutritional requirements, so I apply the same thinking to feeding my dogs. Balance is good but you don't need to go overboard.

    Very few foods are genuinely BAD for dogs, I wouldn't advocate feeding grapes, onion or chocolate but some people get away with it. If you're feeding vegies just don't go to town on any one type, and obviously the bulk of the diet should always be meat.

    Many people on this forum routinely feed eggs to their dogs, me included, and they're not dead yet

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    I only feed raw eggs and tins of sardines as the odd add in, and I find it does wonders for my dog's coat.

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    The all natural diet is designed to mimic what a wild dog or wolf would be eating. Now I hear you saying, "My dog is not a wild animal. So this doesn't apply to them." Well, actually it does apply to them. Let me explain.At the time of this article the commercial pet food industry is from what I could find 50-60 years old.Think about this for a second, using logic and genetics we can easily see commercial foods are new and our dogs stomachs and digestive systems have not changed from the way they were hundreds of years ago in such a short time (50-60 years).All natural diets go back to the wild if you will and provide the proper nutrition for our dogs without adding a bunch of funky chemicals, rendered animals, additives, colors, flavors that are blended and made to smell certain ways, and a host of other nasties found in commercial pet foods.I'm not one of those people who freak out at a bowl of kibble. My dogs get it from time to time, however, they get only the best pet foods I can buy. A list of dog food that is natural and good for your Pit Bull will be provided at the end of this article.Feeding a raw diet (all natural) is about as basic as teaching your dog to chase a squirrel. It comes natural to them and their bodies are designed to handle the raw foods.

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    Can I just say that on your website the video about dog food is not very convincing at all. It looks like someone's whipped it up on Powerpoint and chucked it on the net (dodgy video = why trust their authority?). Can I also say, regarding the "4 Ds" I don't understand why this should be such a problem considering WILD dogs and wolves eat dead, diseased, dying and disabled animals all the time! Unless of course, there's something wrong with the "it happens in the wild so it's okay" argument >.>

    Is anyone able to share some insight on the legalities of sending euthanised animals to be processed for food? I understood it to be very illegal and that the animals were disposed of properly. General information from Australia would be more relevant...

    I like how the last five minutes of the video is advertising for his book xD

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    My dogs only eat spam.

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    LOL @ Spam

    My dogs have kibble mixed with raw meat, fish eggs cheese yoghurt etc, it's just convienient for me.

    Now if I was into true natural, well lets just say they would get a rabbit or two, whole, fur guts and all, now that prey model diet is ala natural lol.
    Bit to messy for me though.

    Oh onions, beware of onions, although my dog does eat some cooked onion is bolignase leftovers every so often without ill effect, but onions are a supposed big no go.
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    What is natural diet for dogs? Dogs are NOT hunters by nature and they haven't been for a long, long time. They will occasionally kill rodents or rabbits, but they rather scavange and eat human/other animal's leftovers. Wolves are different story and let's not mix them with dogs because they are entirely different species although their genetic code still remains the same.
    There have been many researches done about dogs that aren't living under our roofs, stray or feral. They like to be around people just because they don't hunt and are quite happy to live on garbage. Dogs really are omnivores although they are regarded as carnivores by their genetic code and by the look of their jaws/teeth. They can survive on anything.
    But we don't want to feed our pet dogs garbage, dead animals with no history of how they died etc. Introducing kibble was a big marketing boom, but I reckon so is "natural diets", only feeding natural really is better.
    Personally, I feed raw, I feed cooked, I feed kibble, I feed fish (raw fish is dangerous only for salmon-like fish because of certain bacteria). I don't have time to cook or prepare their meals so kibble comes in handy. i pick one that is mainly meat, no grain, no preservatives, no additives. There are certain foods I'd never give to my dogs, such as onions, chocolate, alcohol, spicy foods, sweets etc.
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    Dogs have been opportunistic for a very very long time. You'd assume then that they would have evolved tougher systems to deal with this. They're carnivores by genetics (teeth, etc), yet many dogs will happily munch on some vegetables.

    If natural is the best way, does that mean that people are giving their dogs whole animals? Fur, skin, organs, etc? Nutrition doesn't just come from the flesh and bones... What are the dogs missing out on by only having mince or necks or a couple of bones? How much nutrition is lost in the cooking process, etc., etc. That's always been my problem with entire natural diets. That's why I personally like kibble with raw foods added in (at least then you CAN'T go wrong )

    Can I just say also, blaming early deaths purely on dog food seems a bit silly =/ and coming to that conclusion based on the premises that only food out of the "five things we give dogs" is bad is even more silly. I'd be willing to bet that accidents and hereditary health conditions cause a lot more dogs to die then commercial dog food.
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