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Thread: BARF Diet and How to Balance It???

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    See Angela, all different opinions, lol. My pups are thriving on supercoat and raw. I think we feed what we find what is best for them after we experiment.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shar Pei Rescue Victoria View Post
    Hello....my 2c worth..... If you are feeding kibble, look at the back of the pack and ensure that the first 3 ingrediants are NOT corn/cereals/crap. The ingrediants are listed in order of "most" withing the recipe. If Batty is loosing weight you may want to try him on Evo. Expensive but absolutely full of protien. You can buy from Pet Goods Direct or Pets Paradise (yes, I know - but these are the only importers of the product). I would also consider Innova which has Brown rice listed in the ingredients. It was Evo that stacked all that weight on Gomez 2 weeks, so I guarantee it works. As DA says......just my opinion!! lol

    As to Sachas Blend, yes its good but Glyde is better! Sacha's is an older product than Glyde. The is one thing you need to consider here and that is both of these products use green tipped muscle which is "broken down" at extreme heat. Therefore it will take about 2 months before you can start to see any results kick in. I am now using PAW Osteo which is crushed green tipped muscle and kicks in after about 2 weeks. It is also substancially cheaper than Glyde. 80 tablets for about $40 as opposed to about $120 for a tub of Glyde. Both products are only available at vets.
    Thank you for the advice! I now have Glyde from my vets, I actually made an appointment for myself to sit down and talk to him LOL.

    I have a PGD near me, but I will not under any circumstances go anywhere near pets hell. I'll go in to have a look at Evo and Pro Plan tomorrow ( for days off ).

    I'm feeling a lot more confident after talking to my vet. I went through everything with him - he has Kelpies and feeds a natural/barf diet (I still don't understand all of the differences other than natural doesn't use supplements or veggies?), some of his dogs do better on an all natural and some do better on BARF.

    He also did a very thorough check up on Batty and told me he is a very healthy boy and he hasn't seen teeth as clean as Batty's are in a long time .

    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    See Angela,
    all different opinions, lol. My pups are thriving on supercoat and raw. I think we feed what we find what is best for them after we experiment.
    I think so too, the carer had the pups on supercoat which is why I made sure I had some to give Batty when he got here. I wanted him to be on something more premium and still learning about what is good and what is bad I didn't realise that corn was one of the main ingredients in Advance (and most of the others too).

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    Well done Angela, sounds like it is really starting to come together for you. And that is the point - you. As we all keep saying, take everyone's opinion and facts on board, then decide for yourslef.

    In all honesty I think half the time (if not more) the dogs decide for us anyway. Watch Batty, and he will show what is good for his body and is working, and what isn't.

    So if your vet feeds both pure natural and BARF diet to his dogs, he'll be more than able to guide you in the direction you want to go.

    All the best.

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    Can we sticky this pleeease?

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    Default raising the raw meat comparison again

    Hi there,

    just read the thread with excellent info on raw meat - an amazingly indepth analysis. Great stuff.

    I am currently feeding one dog raw chicken mince, as she vomits up raw beef (okay with cooked) and roo meat every time I give it her. I've found this over five and a half years of her life. Not sure why - she is fine with raw beef bones. She also flares up with itchy skin on raw beef or too much cooked beef. I am loathe to change her over, despite the dubious facts about chicken meat, but haven't tried her with lamb. She is okay with raw lamb bones and cooked lamb meat..... she is also good with raw chicken necks - so are all the dogs.

    All the other dogs (and the cat) are good on raw beef mince, but I recently changed over from supermarket HC grade beef mince to the pet- barn bulk beef mince to reduce costs. They have been good with that too, but I do worry that it is another questionable food. If I was to change them over to raw roo, would I be best to go for HC from supermarkets? (There was a comment that it wasn't too pricey). The whole idea of roo being wild game sits well with me in terms of being a natural food source for dogs. How would I approach changing them over? A gradual mix of what they have now until the ratio becomes all roo? Over what time period? How much in weight/day, would you feed large breed puppies and an adult great dane x bull mastiff?
    Does roo freeze well and how does it keep in the fridge? I've found that chicken mince and especially minced chicken carcasses, such as the stuff I am currently buying from petbarn, goes off pretty quickly, due to the reasons pointed out in the original thread.

    Thanks,

    Cathy.

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    I've found roo freezes fine. Some dogs can't tolerate it (anything from extra gas to vomiting) because it has a higher protein content than most of the farmed meats but I feed roo to the dogs and the cat with no problems.

    One of the issues with pet grade mince is that it's preserved with sulphur dioxide which breaks down thiamine, but some of the commercial pet minces are fortified with thiamine to get around this. I tend not to go for the mince so much because IMO it's like pre-chewing the dogs' food - just not necessary! But I still get the odd bag of it, some of the supermarket roo minces have bits of organ in with the muscle meat (yuck, I know!) so that helps up the offal content in their diet.

    Sounds like your dog might be allergic to beef?

    There's a calculator that can help you work out quantity of food based on weight here: Calculate
    I don't weigh my dogs' food but they still get kibble in the mornings, so I will adjust the quantity of kibble according to their weight (i.e. if waist starts disappearing, less kibble)

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    Default Thanks Meegsndogs

    Thanks for your thoughts on roo and pet grade mince. Thanks for the food calculator link - really helpful!

    Yes, I think my toy poodle is allergic to raw beef.

    I will consider trying roo - will introduce it slowly, but keep my allergic girl to what she goes well on.

    Cathy.

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