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    Hi Jodz

    I think onion is a definite no no - I once added that to the casserole and OMG the stinky farts and poos that resulted was enough to stop me from ever doing that again.

    Very small amounts of garlic - ie for flavour only is supposed to be good but I generally don't give that to her on purpose. By accident, she did get a bit of my dinner of pasta surprise which contained a lot of garlic (two cloves for one serve) and got very excited about that and wanted some more, So I guess, despite the chilli, she thought it (garlic) tasted pretty good. Actually she has aquired a taste for chilli too since I tried using it to stop her from digging places I didn't want her to.

    Frosty loves Supercoat but I feel she likes it for the same reason kids love maccas. The main way you'll know is by your dog's energy levels and the quality of your dog's coat. One day I will copy down the ingredient list and compare it to the heaps more expensive stuff I buy. I have ethicial problems with Nestles who own Purina and Supercoat among other brands, so I try to avoid it. Occasionally I cave in and drink Milo because I like it and there is nothing else like it.

    The Dog Food Project - How does your Dog Food Brand compare?

    That website will help you work out whether the ingredients listed on the dog food pack are good for your dog or not.

    I and Frosty are very fond of the Natures Gift mini treats for training. Even though they're small - I still chop them in halves. And they (or anything else) is not enough to stop her from playing "tag - you're it" games when I want her inside or on lead.

    I sometimes buy some Optimum tinned food chicken and rice. But mostly if I run out of casserole - Frosty gets dry (mixed with yoghurt) only.

    Pal and pedigree tinned dog food has similar effect to feeding onions - so I don't buy those. Never bothered with Chum. I figure the cheaper it is, the more likely the stink bomb effect.

    And I got Frosty from Animal Welfare League and I think they were feeding dry food only, donated stuff whatever they could get. I bought Advance puppy food when I adopted her because they had that in the AWL shop. And I think it might have been what they were feeding her - amazingly enough (it's five times the price of Supercoat). I was pretty happy with Advance but she seems to be doing better on Natural Choice It's one level more expensive than Advance - and both are made by the same company in Australia - Masterfoods aka Mars, ie promite and mars bars etc. I guess I'd have to go to the company website to see if they have any supermarket shelf dog food. Though it could be the supermarket house brands.

    I'd be interested to know how the polony rolls go.

    - I just visited the petfoodproject website again and looks like the Nutro dry food similar to the one that I buy is all recalled in the USA - except the stuff I buy is made in a factory near Bathurst - not in the USA so probably doesn't have the same contamination problems - here's hoping.
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    Thanks for the heads up on the book Deerhound, I had heard of the BARF diet in passing and did look it up when mentioned to me...

    I do plan on getting the book (get paid on Monday) and getting stuck into it but i can't let chloe starve in the meantime so until I know Im not doing something monumentally wrong, commercial food it is..

    Hyacinth, thanks for that link, it cleared up a lot of my questions not only about kibble and canned food but also the grains theory I kept hearing yay and nay's for..

    It's a bit hard to judge her energy levels and what not, as until now she's pretty much been chained up her entire life (her ex owner kept her on a 3 mt chain for the first 12 months of her life) and whilst her rescuers did walk and let her run, they were the first to admit they dont know her full potential.. I guess overtime once we get some good routines going and she gets use to the idea that she's here for life and not just another foster home, then we can really assess what she's like on Optimum, and Advance in comparison,

    Thanks heaps again guys! really appreciate it

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    Energy levels for a Kelpie x?

    Most of them will run and run until they fall over ie they don't know their own limits. But 30 minutes to an hour of mostly running should be easy for them.

    The Kelpies and kelpie x's I've spent time with are very demanding in terms of "gimme something to do - right now" ie

    "Your wish is my command"

    "Y O U R WISH is MY C O M M A N D ! ! ! "

    then

    "I... C O M M A N D you W I S H me N O W !!!"

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    hahah well thats very true and what i am expecting, as we have friends who have kelpies, that being said my Daughter has worn the dog mentioned out on numerous occasions lol..

    But she was anesthetized on Friday and was very doopey still on Saturday, she wanted to play but really couldn't be bothered!! So I put it down to residue of the anesthetic

    Today was a different story, we played a fair bit of fetch and just random running, she got over-excited a fair bit and is now in the lounge room on her bed dead to the world..

    Im wondering if the Shepherd in her (which seems to be more dominant then the Kelpie) will mean she's even more bouncy or it'll mellow her a bit, one would suggest it'll mellow her, but we've had GSD one that was mental and the other who would barely move... Just like people there's no manual!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Energy levels for a Kelpie x?

    Most of them will run and run until they fall over ie they don't know their own limits. But 30 minutes to an hour of mostly running should be easy for them.

    The Kelpies and kelpie x's I've spent time with are very demanding in terms of "gimme something to do - right now" ie

    "Your wish is my command"

    "Y O U R WISH is MY C O M M A N D ! ! ! "

    then

    "I... C O M M A N D you W I S H me N O W !!!"
    The voice of experience speaking Hyacinth ??

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    Definitely the voice of experience. One time I was not playing fetch with a particular Kelpie Heeler x, and she brought me the tennis ball anyway. And put it in the hammock with me. Frosty hasn't quite figured out "where's the fetch" or "can't reach" but this particular Kelpie Heeler x was like a mind reader.

    I think the Kelpie side of Frosty is starting to come out now. She wants a lot of attention even after we've had a good walk and she's supposed to be sleeping. I want to play on the computer, she comes in and starts eating the bed I have for her in here. I've decided once I notice the fluff coming out, I should get up and leave the room (withdrawing attention) - cos she usually follows me, instead of trying to stop her (ie giving her attention).

    Seems to be working. She's decided to sleep for now. It's pretty close to afternoon walk time but I'm not sure the weather is co-operating. I need to get a raincoat (not necessarily a warm coat, just a rain proof one) for her and then it won't matter if it is all wet outside. We tried a version of a dri-as-a-bone on her and she was not comfortable. Kept trying to crawl out from under it. Must have felt really strange to her. I'd prefer something lighter though. Then again it might take her longer to chew up an oilskin coat.

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    . One time I was not playing fetch with a particular Kelpie Heeler x, and she brought me the tennis ball anyway.
    Chloe has been doing this all day, if we don't pick it up she brings it up to us and either puts it in our lap or pushes it into our leg/arm/stomach (depending on who) until we get the idea..

    Her personality is defiantly coming out, I think she's becoming more comfortable...

    Side note, I had NO idea you can get raincoats for dogs thats fantastic!!! I've only ever seen the warm jumpers you can get them or the fairy/ballerina outfits (which im not a fan of!)

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