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    Borzoi - nearly four months. Like with many big breeds, they need to be watched for their up and down growth spurts and fed accordingly.

    My adults have raw mince with a basic dry food plus bones and canned fish a few times a week, also sometimes leftovers etc. I have tried expensive dry foods with poor results. My young ones alternate between adult, puppy and mature dry food depending on how they're travelling, normally with raw meat, bones and canned fish.

    I had a young saluki once whose bottom jaw outgrew her top one within a week causing her to become undershot. We cut meat and any extra protien and she went on mature "fat camp" dry food for over a month and it corrected. She grew into a healthy adult and was never undernourished.

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    Oh my doGness, there is no need to be so defensive Ocky and I have no wish to argue with you either and I have no idea what gave you that impression? I stated what I know from forty years practical experience along with various certificates I have collected on the way in working with , feeding and also breeding dogs and for my own dogs I have been feeding B.A.R.F for near on fifteen years. But as most people rely on commercial dry foods, some brands of which I have no problem with, I was only offering advice .
    If that upsets you then you have a problem not I.

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    What proof have you that it wasn't simply her body correcting itself? I'm not trying to cause argument - I just don't think you can give conclusive scientific information that all dogs should be switched over at age 3-4 months because it will be better for them.

    At what age did you do the food change? Were littermates affected in any way? what were they fed on?

    ATM mine are eating a mix of cali natural and nutro and seem to be doing OK - Billie is slowing down but I think her cancer is catching up with her. Flash is moseying along despite his genetic problems and doofus will only eat 4legs and raw bones - he refuses raw chicken, any dry food unless it has an egg or margarine on it. I've only had him a week and we are still working out what works.

    When I finally get my pup it will be on a raw supplemented by a premium dry - probably cali natural - depends what the breeder is feeding too.

    You don't need to agree with me and I don't need to agree with you - we each have our own dogs to look after as best we can. I think this playing around with dogs diets stuffs them around just as much as overbreeding and inbreeding frankly.

    Best diet is a raw diet but as I am not going to get a degree in animal nutrition, I will use a good dry to supplement and when the dog is old enough move them onto a BARF or prey model diet.

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    Nattylou, Borzois are a gorgeous breed , very regal lovely looking dogs ! A friend of mine had a stunning dog some years ago by the name of Dillon and the one thing I remember most about him was the amount of ground he covered when running. It only took him a few bounds to cross a football field. LOL.

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    I think my vet said in puppy pre-school, to swap over at 18 months for my dog. The brand of dog food I am feeding at the moment is Advance. I had trouble figuring out what the adult target weight would be when she was 5kg and 10 weeks old. She's now nearly 12 months old and just cracked 20kg. The packet says I should be using "large dog puppy food" or something like that. Dunno what the difference is. Thinking we might want to start a thread where we just post the ingredient list and maybe the nutrition percentages listed on our packets of dog food.

    So I plan to feed puppy food till she's 18 months, and I also feed home made dog casserole (meat, veg, rice, bran, oats). And yogurt and marrow bones and carrots. She's self limiting when it comes to intake. And I follow the 2 minute rule - if she leaves the food for 2 minutes, I pack it up and put it away until next meal time. She also likes to eat whatever she can find opportunistically, grass, weeds, stuff left in the school playground, stuff left over after the footy bbq (scary), strapping tape - though she's less fond of that than she used to be. Possum poo, koala poo, duck poo, and mapgie poo, though it's a toss up whether to eat bird poo or just roll in it. And the beach is a fun place to find "food" too. And she gets lots of treats at training time - though my main food reward then is little bits of a slice of wholemeal bread.

    Personally I find it odd that some people who post here think it's ok to feed their dogs 100% raw meat (based on a not quite right view of a wolf diet), and others (or the same people?) think that a dog can get too much protein. Isn't 100% meat close to 100% protein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogSavvy View Post
    Oh my doGness, there is no need to be so defensive Ocky and I have no wish to argue with you either and I have no idea what gave you that impression? I stated what I know from forty years practical experience along with various certificates I have collected on the way in working with , feeding and also breeding dogs and for my own dogs I have been feeding B.A.R.F for near on fifteen years. But as most people rely on commercial dry foods, some brands of which I have no problem with, I was only offering advice .
    If that upsets you then you have a problem not I.
    You seem under the misaprehension that I took your vitriole as an attack on me worthy of a defense. Please let me relinquish you of your illusions.

    Your response is meaningless because there is no way to verify it.

    I too can say I have been breeding for 50 years, and have several advanced science degrees in animal nutrition. I also went to the moon last week.

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    Hyacinth

    Opinions are like a-holes - everyone has one and most of them are full of you know what!

    Your vet is paid to sell Advance - some are paid to sell Hills. If you want to know the difference between foods read the analysis. Do your own research and find out what works for you.

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    I don't 'do a food change' at a particular age, my puppies start on BARF from weaning.

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    Unlike a wolf who has been naturally selected by it's environment for a certain size, shape and growth rate, dog breeds are changed and maintained in different sizes and forms by human's selection. This creates a vast difference in growth rates, which then must be allowed for with feeding.

    Analogy following - beware...
    Consider a wild duck. They eat grass, and some insects right? Then consider a domestic duck descended long ago from a mallard and changed by human selection. They now cannot fly, and some mature to a very heavy body weight by about three to four months of age. Can they satisfy this genetic need for growth on grass and some insects anymore? No. They can't.

    Our dogs are the same. They are not wolves or dingos and their diets vary accordingly.

    Occy - go have a Bex and a lie down would you?

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    Hyacinth, feeding 100% meat is a very wrong and terrible diet for any dog.

    BARF means Biological Appropriate Raw Food and is a GREAT natural way to feed dogs. Foods such as raw meaty bones, offal, juiced raw veg and fruits, fish, eggs, yoghurt , basically a variety of foods ,anything nutritious as long as it is raw and for those who want to supplement with dry food, that's okay too as long as it is a good quality one.

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