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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
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    Do you puree the veg & fruit. I've heard that dogs are unable to process cellulose and therefore wouldn't get the nutrients from veg & fruit unless pureed
    Hey Mags

    The vegies I usually half boil and then mash roughly for the littlies,the older dogs just get it in cubes,not mashed.

    The fruits they usually get raw - don't try getting through my place holding a piece of watermelon And you cannot peel a Mandarin anywhere in this house without Loppy finding you
    Though I have stewed apples and pears into little pouches and froze,thaw out every second or third day and place on top of mince, before when I had this surplus of them.Pups loved it,so did the older dogs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
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    The only thing is that nobody cared about the wild pup eating the same as it's mum. No-one cared about how long it lived, whether it got sick, no-one to worry about vet bills, as it was in the wild. These days our dogs are our family members and loved to bits, it's only natural that we want to do what's best and healthiest.
    I don't understand your point here, but mine was not to claim that no care should be taken for our dogs or puppies. There was a time when dry foods did not exist and I remember it very well. My then dog had puppies 4 times and they've all grown up to be healthy dogs without bulls**t puppy foods. They ate what their mother did, only I made sure it was minced and softened. If there wasn't me, they would still survive on their mother's food. They chewed bones at 5-6 weeks of age. It was playing and more licking of course, but it was the most natural thing for them to do.
    Also, you can feed BARF since early age (as soon as they stop suckling), no harm will be done.

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    Thanks Fedra
    I only meant that wild dogs ate what they could find and it didn't matter how long they lived or how healthy they were,
    Now that they're domesticated, we try and feed what's best for them and many of us get really confused. We get told via media/vet/books etc that expensive commercial food is balanced, with everything your dog/pup needs to keep it healthy.
    With my 1st dog years ago I also never bothered with commercial food. I fed him raw meat and cooked veg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Hey Mags

    The vegies I usually half boil and then mash roughly for the littlies,the older dogs just get it in cubes,not mashed.

    The fruits they usually get raw - don't try getting through my place holding a piece of watermelon And you cannot peel a Mandarin anywhere in this house without Loppy finding you
    Though I have stewed apples and pears into little pouches and froze,thaw out every second or third day and place on top of mince, before when I had this surplus of them.Pups loved it,so did the older dogs
    Awww...that's so cute, Loppy loving her fruit.
    It's like that around here with apples and capsicums, my girls love them raw, and there's no place you can have a yoghurt without 4 beady eyes staring at you

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    [QUOTE=Magdalena;14304]Thanks Leo
    I decided to mix Lolas half,half, but soon I think I'll have her on adult as she's getting a bit porky.
    I've given Mis supermarket food mixed with raw a few times when I've run out. She did have a rash once that might have been related to the food
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    We actually have had some itches but i think completly unrealated.

    Leos has had itchy red feet recently (starting before we starting changing kibble) and I was sure it was an allergy type thing and couldnt figure out what, started limiting where we walked and really watching his food ect but couldnt find anything that would be the cause. Last weekend we had a friend over who is a nurse and he too commented that Leos feet were really red and he too said looks like an allergy.. starting talking and i was saying I was sure it looked like he had been walking in wondering jew cause my mums dogs used to get a rash from it and it looked really similar, just then my OH pipes up and says oh yeah, we have some wondering jew in the back yard! I didnt beleive him (Not in my yard! i dont think so) ! LOL, low and behold he was right! It was hiding up near the garden shed where Leo often likes to roam. Pulled it all out on sunday and doused it with boiling water. Put some paw paw ointment on his feet & in 2 days they looked so much better! Thank goodness. Was starting to think uh oh, dont want to start the messing with the staffy itches! His feet are now looking 100% better and he doesnt want to chew them anymore (stupid wondering jew, i hate that stuff! even made my hand flair up as i had a burn on my thumb), but he still has a scabby nipple at the moment which i thought was part of the same problem but seems not as its not clearing. Grrrr, Off to the vet this weekend to get that checked out and hasnt cleared up over the last week or so like his feet. Will see what the vet says, may have to go back to his previous kibble or try a grain free one instead

    Looking at the protein/fat levels in the puppy kibble Leo was having compaired to an adult food (Different brands) there is quite a difference, half the crude fat (down from 14 to 7 %)and alot less cude fibre (Down from 4 to 1.4%) but the protein pretty much the same (down from 26 to 25%) so if Lola is getting a bit porky i would agree that its time to change her over

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    Hey Leo!
    Glad you found the stuff.
    Poor Leo. Glad his feet are better, poor boob though...

    In re. to Lola, yes it's time to change her. Puppy food is alot richer and fatty, at least the one she's on is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalena View Post
    With my 1st dog years ago I also never bothered with commercial food. I fed him raw meat and cooked veg.
    In my opinion, that is the best thing to feed dogs anyway. Unfortunately, we are lacking time and space so dry food replaced fresh food. I give mine dry but occasionally I cook or give raw and they're so happy when I give them fresh food!

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    Thanks Fedra
    Yes I agree, but time is a problem for sure. I have no probs with raw food but cooking for them....well i avoid cooking for myself wherever i can They still have a better diet than me though

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    Watermelon and mandarin... sounds familiar Ziggy loves them... When it was so hot in Melbourne I gave her watermelon from the fridge. You should have seen her eyes And I like the idea with stewing apples and pears. I can imagine someone really liking that! Yoghurt isn't safe in our house either. At least the pots are well cleaned before we put them in the bin. Zig also loves banana. I usually mash it up and put it in a kong for her.

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    Just something I've always been curious about. What is the justification for feeding fruit and vegetables (or even things such as cheese) to natural carnivores? I realise that they cannot get all their vitamins and minerals from meat alone, but I would have thought that they would not be able to break down and digest fruit and vegetables properly- hence the need to eat herbivores which have already broken it down.

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