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    Hi All,

    Last night I was at puppy kindergarten with Zulu and one of the instructors approached me.

    She noticed, that due to the shape of Zulu’s tummy, she could see that im feeding him kibble, opposed to a “raw diet”… funny enough… at the time she approached me Zulu was munching on my daughters apple

    I told her that I feed Zulu a “premium” dog food, which has “everything your dog needs”, and I feed him according to his weight.

    She was under the impression that the dog food industry was a multimillion dollar industry and there was quite a bit of “hype” surrounding its “premium” products.

    With this in mind, before I start looking at a raw diet, I have some questions:

    1: How many of you believe in a raw diet versus a premium kibble diet?
    2: Does it cost more to put your puppy on a raw diet, especially if you feeding him meat?
    3: Is it more effort prepare raw diet meals opposed to the convenience of kibble?
    4: Have you noticed any changes in your dog whilst on a raw diet?

    Look forward to hearing your thoughts.

    Kind regards,
    Robbie

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    I feed a raw diet to both my dogs and have ever since they were puppies.( I got one at 9 weeks and the other at 10 weeks)

    I feed it because i know exactly what they are getting in every meal and they both do well on it.

    I don't know if it costs more because I have never just fed them on kibble so can't compare.

    Mine costs me about $80-$100 a week to feed.Bear in mind though that mine are large dogs (one is 50kg's and the other is 70kg's)

    They also get a lot of variety and I could spend less on them but seeing I don't have kids or anything else that requires a lot of money I'm happy to spend this on them.

    It does take more effort. I buy in bulk then freeze into individual portions and defrost the night before ready for the next days meal.For example I buy a whole chuck then dice it up and freeze into 500gram bags. I buy a box of chicken necks or wings and freeze into 500gram bags. I get beef neck bones cut into an appropriate size(about 2inches long) and they get one of them each night.

    They also get about 250grams of mince each, be it beef, lamb, pork, chicken or turkey. I also cut up y-bones and split them in half and they get one of them each night.

    They sometimes get diced goat meat, sardines, and diced lamb.

    Sometimes i'll also get some mince and combine it with blended up raw vegies, brewers yeast, flaxseed oil, liquid kelp and an egg and make into patties for them.

    A couple of times a week they'll also get a tablespoon of natural yoghurt and cottage cheese combined each. They also get lambs heart and liver.

    Cost wise if you find a good butcher and buy in bulk you can get things cheaper. The chuck costs me $6.50 a kilo. The chicken necks or wings $2.00 a kilo. The y-bone $5.97 a kilo. The goat is dear at $10 a kilo. The mince I get when it's marked down at work so can be as cheap as $2 a kilo.

    I do have an advantage working at woolies in the meat department so i can find the markdowns easily and also have the advantage of being a butcher so i can pick out good meat for them and also for myself

    Oh I also have a deep freeze that holds all their meat in as i'm buying in bulk and they also have their own fridge.

    As for health wise they both have shiny coats, their teeth have never needed cleaning, even my old girl who is now 13 has sparkling white teeth. Their poos are of a good consistency and easy to pick up or eventually just turn white and disappear.

    I feed them an amount according to how well they are looking. If they look thin they get a bit more and vice versa.
    If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them. ~Phil Pastoret

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    I forgot to add that all the meat I get for my dogs is "human grade" meat
    If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them. ~Phil Pastoret

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    Mine costs me about $80-$100 a week to feed
    Would that be per dog or for both your large dogs?

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    That's for both of them. So $40-$50 each per week.
    I'm sure it costs other people on here who feed raw a lot less. I do tend to get a bit carried away. Maybe I need to get myself a hobby.
    Last edited by tkandz; 04-02-2014 at 02:20 PM.
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    I started with Science Diet for the first 8 months - then I switched to RAW
    For me giving your pooch with the right diet at early stage builds a good
    health foundation -
    m<(o.o)>m

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    I feed my dog Black Hawk Holistic. 100 dollars lasts him about two or three months.

    With a high quality kibble you know you are getting at minimum everything he needs. A well prepared raw diet or something like BARF is definitely the best thing for your dog but it's usually more expensive than kibble and you do need to make an effort, you can't just chuck him a chunk of meat and hope he does well on it everyday no matter how much he might want you to or else you will end up with a very sick puppy.

    Kibble is not so bad really. If your dogs tummy is out too much or he looks bloated (or whatever) you're probably just giving him too much.

    You can always give him a bone or some raw meat to go with his kibble every now and then.

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    Thanks guys!

    I bought 5 chicken wings (about 110grams reach), so ill give this to Zulu for dinner for the next 5 nights. If that goes well, i'll introduce another meat (probably beef mince) and make patties (with veg, fish oil etc) which he can have for breakfast.

    With regards to being cost effective, kibble costs about $5 per kg, whereas raw meat (chicken and mince) is ranges between $3-5 per kg, which would actually make raw food a little cheaper?

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    Have a look at this link:

    Nutrition for Dogs

    Buying in bulk is definitely the way to go as 'tkandz' said.

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    Sometimes i'll also get some mince and combine it with blended up raw vegies, brewers yeast, flaxseed oil, liquid kelp and an egg and make into patties for them.

    A couple of times a week they'll also get a tablespoon of natural yoghurt and cottage cheese combined each. They also get lambs heart and liver.
    Robbie - don't forget a "Raw" diet - isn't just meat or chicken wings.

    You do need to be a little bit careful with chicken as it can be high fat.

    And my dog isn't very good at eating them - she tends to swallow them whole after busting all the bones in the wings but not actually breaking the skin or wing into pieces and then chuck it up later. Not fun.

    Supervise the first one he gets - make sure he chews it up properly. It's also a good time to play the give and get or food trading game. Ie you give him a chicken wing and then swap for one that has been dipped in fish oil (or the residue from a tin of sardines in olive oil).

    Do this with any new bone or toy he gets. Dogs are quite good at inhaling things or just doing it all wrong.

    I sometimes give my dog a tinned sardine with olive oil. Usually not the whole tin unless she's constipated. And I sometimes freeze the other half until I need it. It's usually how she gets her wormers.

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