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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Forgot to say as far as bones go...i only feed mine the giant marrowbones so nothing gets swallowed...i've had to save my Bullmastiff from choking once before and it wasnt nice.

    Chicken necks are also in my dogs bowls a few times a night but a pup can choke on them too so freeze them and hold them while pup has a chew.
    hah, you read my mind, thanks.

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    The point of BARF is the calcium is from edible sources like edible bones. A diet with only marrow bones has nowhere near enough calcium in it to ensure the pup grows properly.

    Until the dog is full grown (18 months) I would stick to good quality dry puppy food. They need lots of calcium as pups
    Not true. Frankly I am happy to raise puppies on the Vets All Natural I feed my dogs and I will wean any litter I breed onto it. It is totally balanced, made by a veterinarian who wanted people to be able to access a proper raw diet without wondering if they have the levels right of essential nutrients.

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    'ejburke32' - I understand about doing research – I am also doing heaps at present. I am hoping to add a little girl to my pack in the first half of next year.

    I was concerned because this thread and another one you started – the titles were in the negative ……… so !

    Never mind – let’s continue the discussion !

    Also, the post you mentioned regarding a dog dying from being fed B AR F – I am sure the person was not telling the whole story ! That is a problem inherent in all types of forums. I know that there has been quality control issues with the product mentioned above – so do your homework.

    As far as courses that you can do – have a look at these links:

    https://animalwelfare.com.au/whatson...rst-aid-course

    Animal Care & Veterinary Nursing - TAFE SA

    Also – I put a link up in the ‘Breeders’ area.
    Happy Researching ! smiley-eatdrink004.gif

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    I fed my pup chicken wings as was recommended. he has had them lots before...He swallowed a section of it whole and almost choked, he then had the runs the next day where he pooped out a large bone, scared me so much. Vet said NO wings only necks yet others have said necks are dangerous, unsure what to do, but be careful with bones!
    I am going to bash them and break the bones to small pieces inside the skin before giving again..

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    Yes, BARF is a brand. It stands for Biologically Appropriate Raw Food. BARF Australia - Biologically Appropriate Raw Food

    I think you're thinking of the raw diet. Which is much broader but most fans do advocate things like chicken carcases and other raw bones. But I'm with Nekhbet. Using a supplement like VAN takes lots of the guesswork out of feeding.

    I think the trick with feeding bones if you are worried about choking or obstruction is to either grind it to a meal or to give large bones that can't be swallowed whole and won't shatter. Though I believe that the bones in chicken necks are relatively soft and I also trust my dog to not swallow small bones whole. It was a different story with my friends' Labrador.

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    I like the sound of the Vets All Natural, the product looks really good and it would take a lot of the guess work out of feeding the puppy/dog. Any ideas on the average price of the VAN sausages and kibble?

    Have now bought the ebook Bulldogs for Dummies which will hopefully give me lots of fun reading.

    I want to give my puppy one of the big leg bones while its still small because it will look hilarious trying to attack something twice its size.

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    I use Black Hawk for training treats and she gets a bit every day with her raw. A bag was $27 I think 3 kgs not at home so cant check. BUt the biscuits are quite small apparently to reduce the risk ofbloat in prone breeds. I fine them perfect for training as she wolfs them quickly and they are clean. Cheese and meat gets disgusting quickly ( her other performance enhancing substances lol)
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    I'd never heard of VAN sausages or kibble. I only use the complete mix that you add to raw meat. Complete Mix for Puppies

    There's some threads on good dry foods if you do a search too. I admit I still just use Supercoat but my dog doesn't get much kibble.

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    this is the health roll which looks like a good option if you are in a hurry and can't prepare the mix. I think I was confusing the mix with kibble.

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    This is an awesome little book, and a very easy read: Dr. Clare Middle - Veterinary Natural Therapies

    The first half is for dogs, the second for cats. Means you only need to read half! Claire talks about the dog digestive system and breaks down what dogs need, nutrition wise. She also talks about the PH level in the dog's stomach - it needs to be a PH of 1-3 (meaning very acidic) to break down bone. Dogs who are fed predominantly processed food often have a PH of 6+ (very alkaline) and thus cannot break down the bone, ergo the horror stories of blockages and sharp stuck bits.

    Happy reading!

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