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    I have a friend who's a vegan and swears by home cooked vegetarian diet for her dog, says it lessens a lot of the smell factor that meat diets can cause. I'm interested in knowing other people's views on this. From memory I think the diet included cooked brown rice, lentils, vegetables (not onions or garlic of course) with some of the vegetables barely cooked for crunch factor (like carrots).

    I like the idea of a less smelly dog (especially since I'm looking at a bulldog which is a breed reknown for their farts ), but don't want the dog missing out on anything vital. Any thoughts?

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    I'm sure there's plenty of opinions on this one, and mine is look at the animal's teeth if you want to see what kind of diet they were meant to eat. I don't believe dogs are meant to be vegetarian. And this is just my humble opinion of course, I don't profess to be an expert. The only time my old dog had a stomach upset in her life was when I was trying to bulk up her food with veges (for weight loss) and overdid it. Some veg she is fine with, too much and she's not. That will also vary among individual animals of course.

    As for stinky dog farts - I've found my Mastiff cross to be rank on canned food, fine on some kibbles, and pretty smelly on others, RAW no smelly farts at all (although I'm not game to go back to that as it was the beginning of his bowel trouble). Bottom line, I think you try different foods until you find one that agrees with your dog. I'm on a steep learning curve regarding feeding myself at the moment, I still have a lot to learn.
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    I would love to see some valid scientific research into this. My first thought is that a vegan diet cannot possibly work for a carnivore. It works for humans because they're omnivores and way more adaptable when it comes to how they can convert nutrients into energy.

    You don't have to cut out meat to reduce flatulence either. I went the opposite way and started feeding my dog raw meat instead of processed stuff. I add VAN as a daily supplement for minerals and vitamins (you could make that part yourself, but I'm too lazy). My dog farts way less than when I got her. Never has any bowel troubles either. Super easy to pick up.

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    interestingly I started reading the link to the BARF diet and it had a section on how its fine to have your dog on a vegetarian diet as long as it gets enough protein.

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    Maggie is only flatulent if she gets veggies. I guess the stomach gets used to it. But dogs are defintely carnivores. They would survive on a vegetarian diet, I wonder if it affects life span, organs etc? I would like to see a proper study too.

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    Beloz - please excuse my ignorance, but what's VAN? I'm still thinking about going back to feeding RAW as I think I know what the problem was and can eliminate it. One of my worries with it though was supplementing....

    Quote Originally Posted by ejburke32 View Post
    interestingly I started reading the link to the BARF diet and it had a section on how its fine to have your dog on a vegetarian diet as long as it gets enough protein.
    There's protein and there's protein. I profess no knowledge of canine nutrition, but I have a background in human nutrition and a major mistake uninformed people make regarding vegetarian diets is assuming protein is just protein. Proteins from animal sources and proteins from vegetable sources are constructed very differently. They contain different amino acids - of which there are hundreds, 22 essential to humans. A human can get loads of vegetable protein and still be deficient in certain essential amino acids, it's a matter of knowing what you need, where you can get that, finding foods that in combination provide it. I suspect, dogs being carnivores, that animal protein would be much higher quality, and more readily available to their digestive system than vegetable protein, but that's an educated guess at best

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    Interesting discussion, personally my instinct tells me that they need meat, i know i'd kick up a fuss if someone tried to make me a vegetarian. Interesting to hear ppl say that smell isn't a problem as long as its proper raw meat not the canned stuff. The idea of giving my dog canned food is gross, definitely don't want to go there.

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    I'd like to add that dogs are not, to my knowledge, cornivourous. They are omnivorous, like humans. They scavenge for food, some being non-meat products. When they kill an animal, they will eat the stomach of the herbivorous animal, consuming the plant matter from there.

    I feed my dog meat but my friend created a company called Augustine Approved. He is vegan and he has invested a lot of time and money researching nutrition for dogs. If you want to know more info, you can look up his website.

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    Belinda - that is absolutely true, of course. Good point to be added. It's why I was worried about supplementing when feeding only raw meat.

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    Yes that's what i'm thinking trying the BARF diet with a good mix of fresh meat and raw vegies and see if I can get the balance right. Dhru you mentioned bowel problems with the RAW diet is that the same as BARF what was the outcome of that and why do you think it happened?

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