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    Hi there DOG LOVERS

    Just hoping to get some advice and tips on keeping the weight off labs!

    We have 2 one is 4 months one is 9 years, our 9 year old is overweight and needs to lose about 10 kilos, as he is aging the weight problem is making it worse for his legs and joints. He is on a dog diet (special nutritional dog biscuits, i forget the name). and Our little girl is good size at the moment but i want to make sure she doesnt end up like our older lab.

    They will eat anything and everything and will barge through the door for food! Pepper (the puppy) drools from the mouth if she sees food.

    How much should i be feeding the baby per day and also our older lab.. also any reccomdendations on dog buscuits for 4 m/o and also for 9 y/o?

    Any tips, advice, tricks, adivce on feeding my babies and what/how much to feed them would be great

    Thanks in ADVANCED

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    For the older lab, feed two small meals, one morning and one evening. Frankly, if the dog is overweight I would be switching to a raw diet which will also help his joints get proper nutrition. I left dry food behind and my two 10 year old dogs run around like the 2 year olds do.

    Vetsallnatural.com.au is a good start, you can feed the pup on it too to how much the packet says. Just soak the mix and add to meat. Feeding 2 meals a day anyway for a breed prone to bloat is a great idea, and because they're not in a huge meal - fast cycle they wont keep looking for food all the time. If they do, raw carrots. They'll either love them and gain no weight or hate them and stop asking you lol

    Have a look at the Sprinter Gold Energy E Oil for the older boy too, cheapest omego supplement on the market and balanced with the antioxidant Vitamin E to help his body rid itself of metabolic wastes in the muscles.

    What you feed is ultimately up to you and your budget, but aim for high protein foods, low in 'generic' ingredients like byproducts, mixed grains, wheat, etc they're just money down the toilet and do nothing for your dogs health. I find raw the best now above all for all 5 of my dogs and I won't bother going back to kibble. Even the old pug with an old, poorly healed cruciate injury zooms around the house

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    I have been looking into the raw food diet for my Rottweiler (almost ten months old) I have heard many good things.
    Brian has been on Nutro Large Breed Puppy food since we adopted him at three months. The first ingredient is chicken. He is in magnificent condition,slim and trim.
    He either has raw chicken necks, kangaroo or sardines mixed with the kibble as he would not eat it otherwise. I feed him twice a day, in the morning I add a spoonful of natural yoghurt. He also has marrow-bone each week.
    ( I freeze half ) He is spoiled and the weather is hot in WA so I let him chew it inside at night.

    I also mix some of his daily food allowance with a couple of treats in his Kong and Bob- a- lot. Also in the training pouch so he has to work hard for his food. And like Nekhbet said carrots are great fillers and good fun too.

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    Hi,

    Sympathies for your labs, you have your work cut out for you as they were bred to retain weight, as were cockers.

    IMHO - I would also go a raw diet (but meat, no veggies). This includes bones, which if sufficient size will take a lot of chewing for little calories in the marrow.

    As a dog walker, I also highly recommend two long off lead walks per day where they can run with social dogs. Without that part of the equation you will really be struggling.

    I wouldn't bother with wheat/ rice or anything else that herbivores eat, but if you are looking for healthy low calorie snacks there are a lot of meat based high chewing low kJ snacks like roo tendons, hooves, bully sticks etc. Like kongs, you just have to adjust the level up so that they are a challenge without being impossible.

    Yes this is my personal advice, and hoping not to shock anyone with my forthrightness - I know a lot of people have a lot of experience in here ... this is just what i know ... works for my dog.

    Good luck.
    Bruce is a "dog walker in inner west Melbourne" & sells "Healthy Dog treats." My dog Archie approves of these things.

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    marrow is very high in calories, and dogs are not obligate carnivores. Vegetables can help fill up tummies and provide some nutrients not found in meat alone, a 100% meat diet is not healthy for a dog. Carbs are slower burning then proteins, and dogs can cope with a carbohydrate component whatever form you put it in. More carbs = weight gain, less carbs = weight loss. It's why I use the raw diet from Vets All Natural, easy to vary without missing out on vital nutrition.

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    Agree with Nekhbet.

    Need veg and meat in the diet. Move away from dry and processed Crap. It is not an optimum diet.

    I haven't tried Vets All Natural, but I feed my dogs and clients dogs that we mind Phuds. You buy it online. Same concept as Vets all Natural - mix with boiling water and mince of your choice. If you go down this path, make sure you choose a mince that has low fat, for the older dog especially.

    Otherwise, you can always make your own meals for the dogs from home ingredients. You would just need to do some research on what is required for a balanced diet and what foods help with weight management.

    Other than that, if your dog isn't losing weight, lower the meal size and break it up into smaller portions throughout the day. It's hard when they look at you with those big sad eyes, making out like they haven't been fed in a week, but ultimately a dogs body is meant to handle eating 4 times the required amount because in the wild they don't eat everyday so they eat until they're fat and then use that for a few days, then go out and hunt again. You need to be conscious of this and not fall for their mind tricks

    I agree that you need to walk them to help work off weight/food but it doesn't have to be an offload run. An on lead walk is just as good and less straining on the old ones joints. Plus you have control of your dog instead of letting it run off and do whatever to whoever it likes. If your dog isn't under voice control, it shouldn't be off lead, regardless of how friendly it is.

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    Both my labs especially my 4 year old are OBSESSED with food. We never feed them our food But still they drool like crazy when we eat and don't take their eyes off us lol..in saying that both my girls are super fit trim and healthy the vet says my eldest is one of the most well conditioned labs she's ever seen.. I feed them royal canin 1xcup kibble plus 4xtable spoons of raw blended veggies for breakfast and 2xcups of kibble 4xtable spoons veggies for dinner.. My 11month old gets half a Sml tin of salmon in her breakfast daily for her ED.
    No extras only maybe a pigs ear as a treat... But the key is exercise my girls love to swim, play frisbee or fetch with laylahs condition swimming is the best low impact excercise...
    Remember u may think they're starving coz of how food obsessed they are but a lab will literally eat itself to death if given the chance, so bulk the meals up with healthy veggies

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    we have a beagle, equally if more obsessed with food than a lab...

    lost 5kg 2 yrs ago and has kept it off. He sits at 13kg now.
    We went to ONE feed per day only. Bones and raw food, minimal carbs, minimal grains. Lots of bones- whatever I can get (roo tail, beef soup bones, lamb bones, marrow bones, chook necks/wings etc). Tinned sardines (in oil), raw eggs. Veggie scraps, fruit scraps.
    He is still a theif (table and counter top surfer, lunchbox raider)- so he gets carbs that way!
    He is also walked once a day EVERY day, rain/hail or shine between 3 and 7km depending on the route we take and the time I have.

    I really think that commercial dog diet food is really expensive crap- and looks so boring for a dog who loves food! If and when we feed dry food its the best I can afford (1 bag tends to last a year or so...) wellness/eaglepac/taste of the wild etc.

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    Bones can help satisfy the habit of eating
    whilst being part of the daily calorie intake
    with raw diet

    That and get it having fun whilst burning fat. Swimming/ball combo is great with labs usually, do either of yours? The dog beach?
    And lots of playing with other friendlies.

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    p.s if you are feeding pellets, the weight control versions are calorie limited and have a high fibre content.

    That may help ..
    Bruce is a "dog walker in inner west Melbourne" & sells "Healthy Dog treats." My dog Archie approves of these things.

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