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    Two of my dogs (both Cavaliers, one 11 and one 10) have CHF. Angel, the older one, takes Vetmedin and a low dose of a diuretic, while Bailey takes just Vetmedin. I'd like to give them food that is as good for their hearts as possible. When they were younger, they were fed raw, with things like meaty bones and chicken necks, however Bailey got masticatory myositis and couldn't chew the bones properly, even of chickens, and Pepper, our other dog, has no teeth. They are currently fed Taste of the Wild or Evo Small Bites kibble, and some kangaroo or beef mince, and will soon have their kibble + Ziwipeak canned food. Does anyone feed these foods, and are they sufficiently low in sodium and high in things like taurine that help the heart? If not, what would be best to give them?

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    you need to speak to your veterinarian about suitables levels of protein, fat, sodium and other minerals that may cause fluid retention. Then I would go looking at brands and their analysis. Personally dogs with such severe health problems, I would never take recommendations over the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    you need to speak to your veterinarian about suitables levels of protein, fat, sodium and other minerals that may cause fluid retention. Then I would go looking at brands and their analysis. Personally dogs with such severe health problems, I would never take recommendations over the internet.
    Yeah, I've spoken to my vet about it. They seemed pretty noncommital wrt sodium levels and such, and one said that the dangers of high sodium haven't really been proven for dogs. A regular vet doesn't really seem to be an expert dog nutritionist, which is fair enough, so I want to see if anyone might have recommendations for good low sodium foods. I would of course research it myself and discuss it with the vet, rather than rely on Dr Internet, MD., but thanks for your concern.

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    run an email to Dr Bruce Syme at Vets All Natural about diet, Vets All Natural Animal Health Centre

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    You have any luck Blue Dream? One of my dogs, an 11 year old Cavalier has started on vetmedin and a fairly high dose of Urex for fluid retention. Would love to find a really good diet to help ease some weight of him too, my vet really just said cut down on his feed levels

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    I've started feeding her Nature's Gift canned food, since it's nice and meaty (the varieties with veggies/grains are 70% meat), is canned so she gets some hydration from it so she doesn't have to drink as much, and every ingredient list I've seen says it only has naturally occurring salt (about 0.1%) since most of the taste comes from the meat in it. I think canned food can be a bit hit or miss regarding weight loss, with some dogs it works well because the moisture in it helps them feel fuller, but I've also heard that some dogs tend to gain weight on canned. I feed Angel about three 100g trays of Nature's Gift a day, and Bailey and our other dog, Pepper (Pom/Chi) eat about half a can between them. The trays are balanced nutritionally, but can get pretty expensive depending on the size of the dog, but the cans are also good (but they do have grains, which the trays don't - not really a problem unless he has allergies).

    I also found Vet's All Natural to be good, if you'd like to feed raw - Angel and Bailey were losing weight well on that, we only stopped it because Angel got sick and lost her appetite, and at the time we thought she was sick of the VAN (turned out to be a tumour on her spleen). Another good one is Ziwipeak, which is made with a raw diet kind of ideology, and so they use a lot of meat with, as far as I know, no added salt or flavours or anything. Ziwipeak is very expensive though, I only get it occasionally for treats.

    So, to finish this insane essay about dog food - Nature's Gift is convenient and has good ingredients, but I haven't personally seen how good it is for weight loss (it might be great, though, I have no idea), and VAN is also very good and in my experience works well to get a dog to lose weight, but is somewhat harder to obtain and less convenient to store. Ziwipeak is also good, but is generally prohibitively expensive. Does he have any other dietary restrictions?

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    Thanks for getting back to me, I'm going to keep a look out for all your suggestions, have been feeding him raw chicken mince and he absolutely loves it, just wasn't sure if there was a better option for a dog with his condition. He doesn't particularly have any diet restrictions, I bought a bag of Advance brand elderly weight loss dry food, or something like that, and its actually quite large bits which he find very difficult to eat. Im sure I'll find the right balance, he has been struck down with pretty bad cold needing antibiotics, so hard to judge the effect the food has recently had on him. Hopefully he comes good now and can get him trimmed down, thanks for the advice, all the best with your little one too

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    I find it odd that there are so many people genuinely interested in their dogs health and nutrition and with the mass of different breeds, ages, sizes, sexes, likes, dislikes and issues that it is so hard to find a doggy nutritionist...

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    I know I am probably a bit late but Hills has a special cardiac diet for dogs. It comes in canned form only and is quite expensive though. Crystal was on it towards the end of her life.

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