View Poll Results: What should happen to Pit Bull's?

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  • Owners should pass some kind of test or course before owning one

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Thread: I am new here but very passionate about Pit Bulls and how they are treated

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricey View Post
    You want a dog? You want a really good dog? You want the best ever dog? Then you want a pit bull; no other dog comes anywhere close. Pit bulls are the only dog breed that has been selectively bred to be totally human friendly.

    ricey
    Nope, not the only dog at all..not looking for an argument, but it is actually in some breed standards that the newfoundland dog has to be tolerant, friendly and such..They are rescue dogs (human) and they were the original nanny dog and have a natural affinity to be around and with people even people they do not know. The term (nanny dog) has been taken over now by many other breeds. Newfies are desexed and not bred when they show any aggression by good breeders

    From the standard......"Temperament: The Newfoundland's expression is soft and reflects the character of the breed - benevolent, intelligent, dignified but capable of fun. He is known for his sterling gentleness and serenity. Any show of ill temper or timidity is to be severely faulted. Bad temperament is a disqualification." And this is to both other dogs and people.

    My best newfie girl (conformation wise), was desexed, because her temp was not 100% even though it was caused by mistreatment of previous owners. I do quite a bit with newfie rescue and even though many have been mistreated, many (not all) still come out friendly at the other end..........That is not true for most breeds. There is no 100% reliable breed.

    I train a lot of dogs and I also do a lot with several Rescue places. With lots of different breeds

    It does make a difference what the breeds are, but it is not specific to only Pitt bulls and in a perfect world some outsider would decide if people could own any dog. But people can have kids too without anyone checking.

    And we do not live in a perfect world.
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    You want a dog? You want a really good dog? You want the best ever dog? Then you want a pit bull; no other dog comes anywhere close. Pit bulls are the only dog breed that has been selectively bred to be totally human friendly.
    I wouldn't go that far
    People should always research which breed is best suited to them before getting a dog.
    I voted license

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    I voted licence, but I'd vote licence for any dog owner and all dog owners...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lala View Post
    I voted license.

    Breed does and should come into it in my opinion. Some breeds need more experienced and responsible owners than other breeds and I think it would be silly to say all dogs are the same, they are not.

    I think youd be pretty hard pressed to get a vicious cav (as an example), even if the owner had no idea. I am sure someone here has met one and will prove me wrong but it is the only breed I could think of right now.

    Any large powerful breed, that ha the potential to cause damage, should need a licensed owner. Any small breed that needs a firm hand to stop it from getting abit nasty, needs a licensed owner.

    Obviously you cant apply licenses to just certain breeds so it should therefore apply across the board, but to say a pitbull is just another dog is wrong. They are not JUST another dog. They are Pitbulls, a breed of their own with their own special requirements in regards to love/training/exercise/whatever, like all other breeds.

    Someone is bound to read this the wrong way so for that person, I love pitties and I am anti BSL. I love all dogs, I think they all deserve to be loved and to love. I am just saying that breed does still need to be taken into consideration when considering temperament and all that rubbish
    I have to side with Lala.

    If dogs were just dogs and all breeds were the same and didn't have different requirements then having breeds would be completely and utterly pointless.

    Each breed is different and have their own temperaments, their own genetics, their own training requirements, socialisation requirements, exercise requirements and management requirements.

    Owning a Pitbull is nothing like owning a Maltese or a Cavalier. Owning a Newfie is nothing like owning a Kelpie.

    People wanting to own any breed of dog should be treated the same way, they should all have to pass licensing requirements (like reptile owners), and they should have to prove that they have spent time researching the breed they intend on bringing home and show why that breed suits their lifestyle. I know some people will say "why should I have to do that" . Having a dog is a privilege not a right and as far as I am concerned if harder laws on ownership discourage some people from owning dogs, then good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I have to side with Lala.

    If dogs were just dogs and all breeds were the same and didn't have different requirements then having breeds would be completely and utterly pointless.

    Each breed is different and have their own temperaments, their own genetics, their own training requirements, socialisation requirements, exercise requirements and management requirements.

    Owning a Pitbull is nothing like owning a Maltese or a Cavalier. Owning a Newfie is nothing like owning a Kelpie.
    So true....having owned kelpies and newfies side by side with a few Cattle dogs. They even require different methods of training.

    I also agree with the license
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I voted licence, but I'd vote licence for any dog owner and all dog owners...
    Yeah, me too. If the poll had said licensing for all owners of any breed. I would have voted for that.

    But it didn't; it singled out the owners of pit bulls as deserving regulation and I could never vote for that.

    Thing is, all dogs can bite and some dogs do. Dog bites are not a breed specific problem. It is up to the individual dog owner to ensure that their dog does not bite a human.

    ricey

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricey View Post
    You want a dog? You want a really good dog? You want the best ever dog? Then you want a pit bull; no other dog comes anywhere close. Pit bulls are the only dog breed that has been selectively bred to be totally human friendly.

    ricey
    That is certainly not the case. Each breed's individual charactoristics suit different peoples needs. While pit bulls may be the one for you, they are certainly not for everybody. As for them being the ONLY dog breed selectively bred to be human friendly is nonsense.

    Maybe you have not owned Cavaliers or newfies or labradors??
    I do agree with you pits and bull breeds get a bad wrap, and i believe the reason for that is their appearance attracts morons who think it's really funny when their "tough" dog attacks and kills the neighbours maltese terrier.

    I would like to see the owners of any dog that bites a human or kills another dog jailed for negligence.
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    QUOTE=cavalierqld;163616]That is certainly not the case. Each breed's individual charactoristics suit different peoples needs. While pit bulls may be the one for you, they are certainly not for everybody. As for them being the ONLY dog breed selectively bred to be human friendly is nonsense.

    Maybe you have not owned Cavaliers or newfies or labradors??
    I do agree with you pits and bull breeds get a bad wrap, and i believe the reason for that is their appearance attracts morons who think it's really funny when their "tough" dog attacks and kills the neighbours maltese terrier.

    I would like to see the owners of any dog that bites a human or kills another dog jailed for negligence.[/QUOTE]

    Hi there,

    I will admit to being biased about Pit Bulls. Sheesh! When I eventually adopted Hobbes from my local pound (long story), I had only read about pit bulls in my state newspaper (The West Australian, which is not known for fair and unbiased reporting). The ranger told me that Hobbes was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) and that is what I thought he was. My wife found Hobbes as a non neutered stray male dog at our local dog park and brought him home. Love at first sight 'tween Hobbsie and me LOL! Hobbes was everything I wanted in a staffie, but bigger and stronger and better! In WA, the Dog Act is quite clear about adopting stray dogs; the only legal way is to relinquish the dog to the local pound who have to hold the dog for a minimum of 3 days in order to give the original owners the oportunity to claim their dog.

    So this is what we did; after 3 days I phoned the pound to arrange picking Hobbes up. The pound told me they were going to keep Hobbes for a few more days as they had to temperament test him. 4 days later the pound told me I could collect him.

    So I went there to pick him up. The head ranger told me "we had to keep him longer so we could get him temperament tested, because of his breed". Back then, I was thinking "he's a staffie FFS!" Then the ranger said "but he's fine, he is a lovely dog".

    And then he said "What are you going to register him as? How about you call him a Staffordshire Bull Terrier? That will do" and he winked at me. Me, I did not have a clue; I genuinely thought Hobbes was an SBT. I think that the ranger thought that I knew what was going on.

    6 months later at the local dog park, a friend who was a ANKC terrier group dog judge said "Hobbes isn't a Staffordshire Bull Terrier; he is an American Staffordshire Terrier". Having never heard of AST's, I did what anyone would do; I googled them. American Staffordshire Terrier = American Pit Bull Terrier. I was gobsmacked!

    10 years later though, I'd never want a different breed. It has not been totally easy owning an APBT, but it would not have been totally easy owning a standard poodle either. You have your dog and you make your choices. I really don't believe that Hobbes has been any harder to own than any of the other dogs I have owned.

    Different, but not harder. Different, and more rewarding.

    ricey

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    Hey Ricey, Im sure Hobbes is a darling and im sure we need more pics???
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.
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    i love pittys too.. best dogs i think! So loyal.. loving and gorjuz personalitys.. Its a shame what can happen when they get in the hands of the wrong people.

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