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    You are right Beloz, it would be great for them to break down the statistics the way that you have stated (I am a number girl, so I'd love to get my paws on the raw data to do the comparison). But this is all we have to go on right now. It doesn't change the fact that at the most, about 2% of pit bulls will be involved in an "incident" which is just as likely to have involved no injury to anyone, as it is to have seriously injured a person, or killed another animal. In fact, there are so many deaths of other animals, there is no way that pit bulls could have been responsible for all of them. Which at least proves other breeds are "just as" if not "more than" capable of killing and injuring. And it doesn't change the fact that there are a large number of incidents that involve other dogs. It doesn't change the fact that between 62% and 65% of those "incidents" occur on public property and less than 2% of those involve "Pure Bred" Pit Bull Terriers (or at least, dogs registered as such).

    On it's own, it is what it is (I'd love to see better reporting, with much more information, like "reason for attack", to help councils focus their attention on problem areas). But when you combine it with all the other data out there that tells the same story, it all adds up.

    And the Dangerous Dog Register (liked to above) includes declared dangerous or menacing dogs, so they aren't "just bites". Even if every pit bull on the register were declared dangerous, that still leaves 75% of the dogs belonging to other breeds. I will be contacting each of the councils to try and work out exactly how many of their pit bulls are actually dangerous (not sure if they'll respond, but I'll try anyway).

    I am in the middle of pulling all of the information together to put forward a "case" or sorts. Based on as much Australian data as I can find, but supplemented with overseas data where necessary or useful (for example when a ban has been repealed).

    If anyone has any information that they think is useful, please let me know so that I can add it. Thanks.
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    Yep, you are right. Those figures, as primitive as they are presented, do prove that the pitbull hysteria is a load of BS and the BSL a waste of time and money.

    I think I was just a bit shocked at how badly that list portrays staffies and staffy crosses. Even taking into account that they are way more popular than most breeds on that list. I am a bit allergic to incomplete stats as they completely misrepresent the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I am a bit allergic to incomplete stats as they completely misrepresent the truth.
    Same here. It's easy to see how incomplete these stats are (and they don't even cover the fact that there might be a great number of unregistered Pit Bull Terriers so that their attacks per breed population could be way out). And yet, the government are still convinced that BSL is keeping us safe. Yeah right.
    "What other people say about you, is a reflection of their character, not yours."

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