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    I do not want to get into an argument here with anyone, but I totally agree with Ricey that any dog can be a problem dog. There are a lot of people out there who shouldn't own a dog because they are idiots and do the wrong thing by their dog, same as some people shouldn't have kids!

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    No where in any of my posts Oskars Mum would i dispute that this couldnt happen to any breed. ive never even defended Neo's, i know all too well the damage a Neo could do. Thats why in all my posts previously i have always said i do everything i can to prevent anything of the sort. totally agree with your comments about owners and parents.
    I only have one problem and that was Ricey's original post. Nothing else, its not a "vitriloic vendetta".
    Ricey have you actually gone back and read your first post again? Seriously
    As for members PM'ing wow get some tissues guy's, a vitriolic vendetta, bahahahahahah

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    All good, lol, there are just lots of ********s out there that have dogs for the wrong reasons. There does seem to be a stigma attached to staffies and pitbulls and other such breeds, where wankers want to appear to have a tough image, but I love staffies because they are placid beautiful animals. Oskar is a american x english staffy and is a huge sook lol and think if anyone treats a dog right, regardless of breed, they can be awesome pets. It is such a shame that a lot of people mistreat their pooches.

    I know thats a bit off topic and it is easy to get into heated arguments when you have to rely on just text to get your point across.

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    I'm having trouble figuring out where Ricey and Peter70 actually disagree.

    Personally - if I saw a dog attacking mine - I'd be frightened. The fact that it didn't do any damage to the human doesn't make any difference to the fact that it could.

    I think it wasn't made all that clear by the news article that - both dog owners were in the wrong. None of the dogs were registered and the fence was not sufficiently secure to keep them apart.

    Not sure why Ricey has to make rude insuations about Neo owners either but since neither Ricey or Peter70 has made use of the report button - I can only assume both are happy to continue their "discussion". I haven't seen any evidence of Peter70 targetting anyone either. I'm not sure why Ricey would mention it. It's not a good look from here.

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    Hyacinth i took offence to the mocking of the victim especially the "woose bag" comment. This bloke was bitten and regardless of the damage OR THE BREED OF DOG im sure he was in fear and suffered from it.
    The comment if he was bitten by a real pitbull i would expect more, reminds me of crocodile dundee pulling out his knife and saying thats not a knife this a knife.
    Maybe i could have put a nicer reply to him but i gave him as much credit as he gave the victim.
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    I agree - it's true that any dog could have done more damage than it did to the human, but the wounds to the SBT were fatal. A very scary thing.

    I dunno about the wuss bag comment either. But it's just an opinion. And we're free to disagree with it.

    My dog has been chomped several times, twice by the same rottweiler at our dog club. Owner said she was just playing - and yes my dog wasn't bleeding and rotties can bite a lot harder than that - but it doesn't make it acceptable or less scary to me or my dog.

    At least that Rottie gets muzzled now - having done it a second time. My dog being the overly friendly creature with very poor sense of self preservation - still tries to greet this particular rottie - crawl crawl, roll upside down. And she'd get chomped again if I let her get close. Which is also scary. Ie the rottie thinks its playing but its bite ihibition is crap.

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    OK, I do agree that my original post could have been worded better and that the woose bag comment about Mr Di Vito was unwarranted.

    But I'd like to move on and have a civilised debate with Peter70 and anyone else about the unnecessary targeting of American Pit Bull Terrier as the current 'devil dog'.

    I have lived in Australia for a long time; I am now 55 years old. I remember when the German Shepherd dog was the devil dog here, and how young thugs took pride in owning a shepherd back in the 60's. Then the Dobermann took on that mantle and young thugs owned Dobermanns. After that, the Rottweiler became the breed of choice, and if a young man wanted to have a tough dog, he got a Rottweiler.

    But now it is the American Pit Bull Terrier's turn and all of of the easily led folk who believe the Murdoch press 'know' that the APBT is an evil beast.

    The GSD, the Dobermann, and the Rottweiler are not evil dog breeds, and neither is the American Pit Bull Terrier. All these fine breeds have been smeared by having owners who are less than perfect, and have been vilified by a sensationalist press who just want good headlines.

    Neos could very easily become the breed targeted by the sensationalist press and this was why I mentioned then. I do know that Neos are Peter70's current breed and I was trying to point out to him that he could very easily find himself in the same situation as I find myself.

    I own an American Pit Bull Terrier; Hobbes is now 11 years old, he has never injured a human or another dog; he is the only one of my three dogs that I let my grandson play with; he is the only one of my three dogs that I visit nursing homes with as a therapy dog; he is used by dog trainers as a 'reference dog' to socialise problem dogs.

    Occasionally, American Pit Bull Terriers have problem owners; this is not the fault of the APBT. As much as I'd like to say that the APBT is more than other dogs, they are not. The APBT is just another dog breed.

    We dog owners have to defend our dogs, not squabble amongst ourselves.

    Peter70, over to you; I'd just like for us to have a civilised discussion. I'm thinking that we are probably both on the same page but we could have introduced ourselves to each other better. I will admit to a tendency to go out with all guns firing when diplomacy would be a better option.

    Cheers,

    ricey

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    Such is Life
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    I think its a bit to do with the way people dont interact with other people anymore.
    They own dogs but dont even get to know thier neighbours. The dog hardly see's outside its own fenced prison , it somehow gets out and then because it hasnt been socialised properly it dosnt know how to react to such wierd things as a little kid yelling and running or a strange pram approaching it or a bicycle rider looking like prey as it runs away.
    We live in a culdesac where nearly all the neighbours know each other almost like family, if anyone needs somthing we rely on each other everytime. It's really amazing and a special street. We recently had a young couple move into our street from sydney and they are totally amazed how we all get along. They told me the other night they have never got to know thier neighbours or visited them for a arvo beer where they have lived before. It blows them away that 2 blokes sharing a arvo beer can turn into a whole street party without it been planned. It just happens. We have about 7 dogs in our street and except for one dog they all get along fine with everyone and each other. The socialising we do has paid off big time for our pets aswell. There are other things that contribute aswell like media hype and wankers who love owning 'tough dogs' but thankfully i dont have to deal with that type of thing here.
    Thats what i reckon has a bit to do with it anyway.


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    Damn Sean, I would love a street like that! I've met a few of our neighbours since we have moved in, some have been really helpful when our Bella was escaping but there are some that just keep to themselves.

    I think that the media is just all over any sort of dog attack really (unless its one that won't cause mass public outrage) and with the kid getting killed recently its on the forefront of every ones minds. People are just becoming more aware IMO.

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