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    Instead of council pinning the dogs they should pin the owners, hahah do a temperament test on the owner see if they are fit to own any dog not just an APBT.... clearly these people with bad mannered "pitbulls" are just idiots running an ego show

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricey View Post
    This is all a bit sad; the staffy is dead, the supposed "pit bull" is going to be dead, and Mr Di Vita has suffered "minor injuries" to his shoulder. If I had been bitten on the shoulder by a real American Pit Bull Terrier, I would have expected to at least have a couple of bruises or some puncture wounds.

    Mr Di Vita "feared for his life" but fortunately did not spill one drop of his blood. The term "woose bag" springs to mind.

    However, all jibes at Mr Di Vita aside, I do have some sympathy for his position and circumstances. Nobody deserves to have their dog killed by the dog next door.

    I am totally pissed off with dog owners who don't do a good job of containing their dogs. From reading the scanty information available about this scenario, it seems that neither Mr Di Vita or his next door neighbour did an adequate job of maintaining their fences or containing their dogs.

    I have owned an American Pit Bull Terrier for 9 years now that does not bear foolish dogs well , but he has never injured, let alone killed, another dog. My Hobbes gets along fine with dogs that he has been properly introduced to, and shares his bedding with a Maltese/Shih Tsu/Silky cross and a kelpie/dingo/corgi/ferret cross.

    Sheesh! If Hobbes seriously bit someone on the shoulder, many bones would be broken and much blood would be shed. I have seen Hobbes crack a cow thigh bone with one bite. But Hobbes has never bitten a human and is so unlikely to ever bite a human.

    Hobbes (although I know nothing about his breeding) is everything a well bred pit bull should be. Totally reliable with children; calm, trainable, submissive, but athletic and irrepressible.

    Yeah, American Pit Bull Terriers; anything else is just a dog.

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    Well i was trying to stay away from this section but after reading your post i was left in total disbelief.
    How the *^&% can you say the guys a woose bag because blood wasnt drawn. Blood doesnt need to be drawn to make someone fear, the fact that he was attacked at all is reason enough. You sound disappointed almost.
    You then further part blame him for not maintaining his fences, his dogs were contained it was the neighbours dogs that broke through the fence, it was totally his neighbours responsibilty.

    But Hobbes has never bitten a human and is so unlikely to ever bite a human.

    Are you serious??? most dogs that bite humans havent usually bitten a human before and generally most dont get to do it twice. PTS comes to mind.

    Hobbes (although I know nothing about his breeding) is everything a well bred pit bull should be

    Well its good to see you obviously got your dog of a reputable breeder.

    Again all i seem to be seeing from some APBT owners is talking down the incidient, it wasnt that bad,its the victims fault, the blokes a woose OMG!!!!!!!!

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    Even I have been trying to stay away from this section for a little bit and I am an owner of APBT . That post also left me totaly shocked !

    Also just to add,its great that Hobbes doesnt rip into other dogs but every single one of us must remember that they are more predisposed to taking a disliking to any dog. Living with their own is also completely different to other dogs,many,make that most , Pits will happily live with their own 'family' but in no way tolerate another dog at all.
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    Poor staffy. There are two rotties that roam my street regularly. Maybe they are good dogs but how do you know? Rang the council and they served some sort of notice to the owner but the dogs were out again all last week. I would talk to the owner but the dogs bark and carry on when you walk past so I'm not game to go to the door.

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    You need to ring your council again and do the follow up report and keep a written record of the times and dates you see those dogs out. If you're scared of them, you won't be the only one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Well i was trying to stay away from this section but after reading your post i was left in total disbelief.
    How the *^&% can you say the guys a woose bag because blood wasnt drawn. Blood doesnt need to be drawn to make someone fear, the fact that he was attacked at all is reason enough. You sound disappointed almost.
    You then further part blame him for not maintaining his fences, his dogs were contained it was the neighbours dogs that broke through the fence, it was totally his neighbours responsibilty.

    But Hobbes has never bitten a human and is so unlikely to ever bite a human.

    Are you serious??? most dogs that bite humans havent usually bitten a human before and generally most dont get to do it twice. PTS comes to mind.

    Hobbes (although I know nothing about his breeding) is everything a well bred pit bull should be

    Well its good to see you obviously got your dog of a reputable breeder.

    Again all i seem to be seeing from some APBT owners is talking down the incidient, it wasnt that bad,its the victims fault, the blokes a woose OMG!!!!!!!!
    Sheesh!!! What drugs are you on?

    Firstly, I said that I had some sympathy for Mr Di Vita's position. Nobody deserves to have their dog killed by the dog next door.

    Secondly, I ensure that my dogs don't bite anyone by containing them. Any dog owner who doesn't do this is a poop head.

    Thirdly, my dog Hobbes did not come from a breeder. I got him from the pound. Anyone with an ounce of morality will get their dog from the pound.

    Fourthly, I ended up with an American Pit Bull Terrier by chance; they told me at the pound that he was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier (they lied). I got lucky, as these are the best dogs ever. If I'd wanted a thug's dog I could have got a Rottweiler or a Neo, but I didn't. Nothing against Rotties or Neos as they are fine dogs but a lot of poop heads own them.

    Fifthly, I think it is time that you considered taking an anger management course. If you continue on your merry way, you will burst a blood vessel in your brain and your life will go pear shaped.

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    Wish the owners would be punished!! So annoying how irresponsible people (first of all own a dog in the first place) get away with cr@p like this! Sorry, just makes me angry they blame it on one breed without proof... what about the people who can't/won't/don't contain and train their dogs!? BAH!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricey View Post
    Sheesh!!! What drugs are you on?

    Firstly, I said that I had some sympathy for Mr Di Vita's position. Nobody deserves to have their dog killed by the dog next door.

    Secondly, I ensure that my dogs don't bite anyone by containing them. Any dog owner who doesn't do this is a poop head.

    Thirdly, my dog Hobbes did not come from a breeder. I got him from the pound. Anyone with an ounce of morality will get their dog from the pound.

    Fourthly, I ended up with an American Pit Bull Terrier by chance; they told me at the pound that he was a Staffordshire Bull Terrier (they lied). I got lucky, as these are the best dogs ever. If I'd wanted a thug's dog I could have got a Rottweiler or a Neo, but I didn't. Nothing against Rotties or Neos as they are fine dogs but a lot of poop heads own them.

    Fifthly, I think it is time that you considered taking an anger management course. If you continue on your merry way, you will burst a blood vessel in your brain and your life will go pear shaped.

    Regards,

    ricey
    Firstly you mocked (or jibed, YOUR WORD)the victim then went on to call him a woose bag because no blood was drawn. YOUR WORDS "If I had been bitten on the shoulder by a real American Pit Bull Terrier, I would have expected to at least have a couple of bruises or some puncture wounds." You then added that you have sympathy (definately after mocking/jibing the victim)
    Secondly no where in your post do you say anything about your dog being contained, YOU SAY that because he hasnt bitten a human, he is unlikely ever to do so, poop head???.
    If only moral people get thier dogs from the pound how did purebred enthuiasts ever get thier chosen breed, are they all immoral????
    So a Neo is a thugs dog??? Yes see so many in the paper attacking people, makes me wonder why they havent been declared a dangerous breed??? Maybe theyre just out of a thugs price range Just a cheap shot at my chosen breed??? Rotties well the do have some numbers on the board however probably no longer a thugs choice (clearly as i dont have them anymore), pitbulls clearly hold that title, whether you like it or not.
    Anger management isnt an issue with me, what is though is dangerous attitudes from dog owners, a trait you clearly display.
    Maybe you should actually read what you wrote.

    Clearly i wasnt the only one who thought your post was wrong however i must have hit a nerve as you only targeted me.
    As for the drug comment, seems MODs are being selective as i made a similar remark the other week and it was removed, maybe they feel sorry for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter70 View Post
    Firstly you mocked (or jibed, YOUR WORD)the victim then went on to call him a woose bag because no blood was drawn. YOUR WORDS "If I had been bitten on the shoulder by a real American Pit Bull Terrier, I would have expected to at least have a couple of bruises or some puncture wounds." You then added that you have sympathy (definately after mocking/jibing the victim)
    Secondly no where in your post do you say anything about your dog being contained, YOU SAY that because he hasnt bitten a human, he is unlikely ever to do so, poop head???.
    If only moral people get thier dogs from the pound how did purebred enthuiasts ever get thier chosen breed, are they all immoral????
    So a Neo is a thugs dog??? Yes see so many in the paper attacking people, makes me wonder why they havent been declared a dangerous breed??? Maybe theyre just out of a thugs price range Just a cheap shot at my chosen breed??? Rotties well the do have some numbers on the board however probably no longer a thugs choice (clearly as i dont have them anymore), pitbulls clearly hold that title, whether you like it or not.
    Anger management isnt an issue with me, what is though is dangerous attitudes from dog owners, a trait you clearly display.
    Maybe you should actually read what you wrote.

    Clearly i wasnt the only one who thought your post was wrong however i must have hit a nerve as you only targeted me.
    As for the drug comment, seems MODs are being selective as i made a similar remark the other week and it was removed, maybe they feel sorry for you.
    Perhaps I should have taken the advice of the two members who messaged me and and told me to ignore you. One member went into some detail about how you had targeted them and conducted a vitriolic vendetta against them (their words, not mine).

    You have mentioned in your posts how the size of your current breed intimidates other dogs; surely that could be considered to be a thug's comment? "My dog is bigger and tougher than your dog". I got my pit bull terrier as a rescue from the pound; there are far too many dogs being bred both by registered breeders and back yard breeders and a lot of them end up in the pound. I will buy a dog from a breeder when there aren't dogs available for rehoming from the pound.

    Yes, possibly Neos are out of the price range of some thugs, but clearly not all thugs. People are paying upwards of $1,000 for a badly bred pit bull terrier in Australia, and you can get a well bred papered Neo for $1,500 or less. The thing is, if Neo's became the chosen breed for all thugs to own, then Neos would become the dog vilified by the gutter press, and you would have to start apologising for your chosen breed and start saying how your dog is different, he isn't like those dogs, it all depends on how they are socialised and trained, how your dog is rock solid and dependable with kids, and how Neos don't deserve to be portrayed as the 'pit bulls' of today.

    This crap can happen to any dog breed and it shouldn't happen to any dog breed. It could happen to Neos. Lets be real about Neos; they are effing big dogs and they are one of the traditional guarding breeds. Neos are far more capable of doing damage to humans than a 23kg pit bull.

    I'm prepared to have a civilised debate with you Peter70; I am passionate about dogs in general, and pit bull terriers in particular. I think it is very unfair to pit bull terriers how they have been vilified for the failings of some of their owners.

    So I am holding up an olive branch; how about you and me have a civilised discussion with each other and possibly come to some sort of understanding of our positions? We could do this in public on this forum, or we could do this in private by PM's. I'd prefer to do this in public as it would tend to keep us both honest, but it is your decision.

    I'd like to be able to show you that pit bull terriers are not not the problem, but their sometimes crappy owners are. A crappy owner can make a problem dog out of any dog, any breed. Perhaps at the moment, pit bull terriers are attracting more than their fair share of crappy owners, but that is not the pit bull terrier's fault.

    ricey

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