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    Got talking to a lady i see every day or two(just a matter of how often our daily beach outings coincide) who owns a dog which i would class as a pitbull type dog(as in the generic term) based upon look, and asked her what her dog was registered as - answer staffy cross. I like to think i know quite a bit about these breeds but there is no way i could possibly say this dog DEFINATLY had even staffordshire breeding, let alone APBT(sorry i know that is a stupid statement but i assume the intelligent get what i was saying?). Not that this is the first time i have thought about this, but it made me think just how many dogs have i seen in the last few days, and how many of them could potentially be classified as restricted breed. I would say close to 50% of them, assuming none had papers to certify what breed they are. I just hope the first people they try and pin with this legislation are either lawyers, or people with a shed load of money to burn to fight this crap. I don't think the general population realise just how many dogs are at risk here!

    p.s whats the best way to make a dog dangerous? lock it up and give it no excersise!(i.e muzzle and on lead in public!). oh and i have never seen this dog behave in any way other than ideal, comes up and says hello to me, ignores my dog(realising my dog just isn't interested in dogs while he has a ball) - so much more pleasant to see this lady walking toward me than many other people i see daily!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    Got talking to a lady i see every day or two(just a matter of how often our daily beach outings coincide) who owns a dog which i would class as a pitbull type dog(as in the generic term) based upon look, and asked her what her dog was registered as - answer staffy cross. I like to think i know quite a bit about these breeds but there is no way i could possibly say this dog DEFINATLY had even staffordshire breeding, let alone APBT(sorry i know that is a stupid statement but i assume the intelligent get what i was saying?). Not that this is the first time i have thought about this, but it made me think just how many dogs have i seen in the last few days, and how many of them could potentially be classified as restricted breed. I would say close to 50% of them, assuming none had papers to certify what breed they are. I just hope the first people they try and pin with this legislation are either lawyers, or people with a shed load of money to burn to fight this crap. I don't think the general population realise just how many dogs are at risk here!

    p.s whats the best way to make a dog dangerous? lock it up and give it no excersise!(i.e muzzle and on lead in public!). oh and i have never seen this dog behave in any way other than ideal, comes up and says hello to me, ignores my dog(realising my dog just isn't interested in dogs while he has a ball) - so much more pleasant to see this lady walking toward me than many other people i see daily!

    i'm trying to understand this, is it locking it up without excercise thats making it dangerous or is it the walking on a lead with a muzzle?

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    If it's locked in the yard, why would it be walking muzzled?
    I don't see a problem with putting a muzzle on your dog when walking it.

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    Harley would fit the pit bull standard even though he is an Am Staffy. A muzzle would only give the appearance of a dangerous dog. A dangerous dog is created though incorrect training by dipshit owners, neglect, not socializing the dog, no training at all and on occasion (I would say) bad breeding.

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    If the laws come to QLD then i personally know 5 dogs. All of them very friendly pets of kids who would be devastated if the lost them.
    As for customers on my gas runs is would be well over 50 dogs between Hervey Bay and 1770.


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    Cross a lab with a boxer and you have a pitbull look alike. Sigh.

    My dog probably qualifies tho she's clearly cattle dog too. But she's got the shark like grin, the broad head, deep chest, and they've said any colour. She's not quite as broad across the shoulders as an Amstaff or Staffy. A lot of people think she has staffy because of the shape of her head - two domes behind the ears and groove between but she doesn't act like staffy or terrier at all.

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    Quite a few dogs with no APBT heritage I would say. If say comparing to Qlds old 22 point list in using a sort of standard is anything to go by.

    It's been tried and tested and found to be a failure in identification.

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    At least 13. Possibly 15 but the last two I'm not sure of.

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    To answer the first question - for interest sake I walked around 2 blocks in Bris a few weeks ago with a friends dog. We encountered 2 dogs walking - one could have been a PB (too tall but would fit the criteria) other a small fluffy. About 10 dogs behind fences - 3 could have been PB and one definately looked like one. The others were 1 border collie, 1 rotti, 1 ridgeback, 1 blue cross (maybe staffy type so could also be considered but I didn't count her) and 2 non-descript muttlies. So that is around 50%.

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    My boy would qualify he's a brindle staffy x and to make matters worse he has scars on his head, not from a dogfight but from an altercation with a wombat. Even though he's the sweetest dog ever I don't feel comfortable taking him out in public any more for fear that people will think he's a pit bull.

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