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    also, can i ask why you feel these dogs should be banned?

    in 2009 about 40% of people in US jails were "black" does that mean that black people should be banned seeing as they seem to have a higher crime rate?

    *im am dark skinned, im not being racist, jsut using it as an example*
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    Quote Originally Posted by reyzor View Post
    didnt think there was such a dog as a pit bull terrier?
    Again Semantics.
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    60% weren't black Reyzor, which means your racist comparison of people to dogs, is pointless anyway.

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    I think the general population in the USA - is about 13% black so theoretically there should only be that many in jail but there are many more.

    Is that because they commit more crime or cannot afford good lawyers?

    And is the reason they cannot afford good lawyers because historically they have been excluded from property ownership - so while the white people are making money, investing it and passing it on to their children, the black people haven't been able to do that until quite recently ie they're about 70 years behind on the money making track.

    So bringing that back to dogs...

    Are pitbulls over represented in the bite statitistics based on how many there are in the general dog population. Maybe, and maybe not. Ie are pitbulls currently blamed for attacks by boxer x lab pitbull look alikes when in fact there are very few pedigree registered pitbulls if any, in Australia.

    And are unregistered dogs included in statitics against registered dogs eg
    say an unregistered non-pedigree airedale is reported for attack - it gets counted as 1 in 100 registered pedigree airedales - the way the NSW stats are currently organised. Hardly fair on the 100 registered pedigrees - none of which attacked anything. If that makes sense.

    So all we have at the moment are fairly unreliable statitistics that include misidentified and unregistered dogs in with the papered dogs and cross breeds.

    The one thing the attacking dogs have in common is an owner who failed to prevent the attack one way or another.

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    see he only wants those ones band because there the only dogs that attack you see... the other 30 dog attacks dont matter its the 2 of pitbulls... god its like hitting your head against a brick wall with some people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    The legislation is just fine. Semantics.
    sorry but there is a big difference between banned and restricted. if the legislation is fine you have been contracting yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by clubsprint View Post
    Agree, but who lets their children put their face near any dog? My Sister (Phd and supposedly really smart) was visiting and let her 2yo hold and kiss my Kelpie X on the nose before I manamged to intervene. I was always taught and have always taught "keep your face away from the dog. I had all the family over and spent most of the day trying to keep my dog separate from my 2yo nephew.99% of the time nothing is going to happen but you can't be sure and kids can't read dog body language and Goerdie is getting old. Nothing happened of course.
    Agreed why would a parent let a child put their face near a dog, my guess would be one that has little thought to the dangers that can harm a child's welfare both mentally and physically. But children do trip around dogs, dogs do jump, snap and a lot of cases aren't as straight forward as they are made out to be, in at least one of the attacks by a small dog, the dog had gnawed and torn it's way through a child's playpen to bite and attack a baby while it was sleeping resulting in that child being critically injured, I would think that the parents thought that their child was safe from the small dog while they popped into another room after all he was in a playpen and who would seriously contemplate a seemingly normal small dogs bizarre behaviour into their safety precautions, not every day you hear of a dog gnawing through a playpen to attack a baby.

    I was bitten on the face by a large breed dog while staying at a friends house when I was young, I had been taught safe behaviour around dogs from a young age as my parents were pretty responsible and also kept show dogs, I did not stick my face in the dogs space nor was I annoying the dog, but the father of my friend was and the dog went from "playing" to biting and latched onto my face in a split second, it was simply a case of an owner that was not educated on dog safety and wrong place wrong time for me, needless to say I never stayed at that friends house again (as I was petrified of the dog afterwards and am still not fond of the breed) but my friend was always welcome at my house.

    My nephew was riding his bike to a friends house three houses away when attacked by two roaming dogs from the next street, quiet often a child and even adults will get the wobbles and can fall off a bike when faced with a charging dog, but in my nephews case one of the dogs charged/lunged and knocked him off his bike, both dogs then started to bite him breaking his nose and his cheekbone as well as many puncture and deep gashes, at no time did he stick his face in the dogs space it was the other way around with the dogs both attacking his face and yet another case of owners that should have never had an animal.

    Sometimes it's the 1% that counts even when you try and do everything right 99% of the time with kids, accidents still happen, I wish they didn't but they do and I think most caring parents have faced that nightmare even if only in their mind. My mum always said book smarts and common sense never share the same room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    60% weren't black Reyzor, which means your racist comparison of people to dogs, is pointless anyway.
    thanks pugger for the wonderful insight.

    firstly, i said i am not being racist, and i am jsut using it as an example.... so think what you like, i to have dark skin and am of islander/indian background.

    secondly, the 40% in jails in the USA as the highest race of people represented...
    40% black people
    20% hispanic
    15% white
    25% other

    so i put the question to CS again, does that mean "black people" should be outlawed too seeing as WE seem to have a higher crime rate (based on the USA stats)?

    basically what im getting at is genocide is not right, it is the individual who makes the choice, not cos of what they are, cos of who they are......
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    Quote Originally Posted by reyzor View Post
    thanks pugger for the wonderful insight.

    firstly, i said i am not being racist, and i am jsut using it as an example.... so think what you like, i to have dark skin and am of islander/indian background.

    secondly, the 40% in jails in the USA as the highest race of people represented...
    40% black people
    20% hispanic
    15% white
    25% other

    so i put the question to CS again, does that mean "black people" should be outlawed too seeing as WE seem to have a higher crime rate (based on the USA stats)?

    basically what im getting at is genocide is not right, it is the individual who makes the choice, not cos of what they are, cos of who they are......
    You can put the question as much as you like. It has nothing to do with dogs. Any sane person would not try to draw any parallels with dogs. How many people were bitten by hispanics in 2009? Genocide is a term that can only be related to humans. If you want to talk about the socio- economic reasons for black peoples over representation in American jails OK, but don"t try and tie it to the BSL argument. Maybe say your posts out load to yourself before you post them to see if they make sense.

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    Clubsprint.... you still havent answered the question of why you think pitbulls should be banned???
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