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    Looks like QLD could be looking at adopting Victoria's BSL laws... just when I thought we may be safe here

    Queensland may get tough on owners of dangerous dogs as Victoria moves to Ayen's Law | Courier Mail

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadielee87 View Post
    Looks like QLD could be looking at adopting Victoria's BSL laws... just when I thought we may be safe here

    Queensland may get tough on owners of dangerous dogs as Victoria moves to Ayen's Law | Courier Mail
    I am unsure why you are upset about this....

    They are looking at imposing Ayen's law which is the laws they have just enacted in Victoria to make penalties for irresponsible owners harsher.

    These are not laws against dogs but against people, this is good news.

    This means people whose dog seriously harms or kills a person will be charged the same as what they would had they been dangerous driving and harmed or killed a person. These laws are not further restrictions on PB's or their crosses.

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    I don't really agree with the 10 years max jail time either though. People who kill people sometimes serve less time than that sometimes.

    I suppose, with how soft our court systems are, most people would just get a slap on the wrists anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jadielee87 View Post
    I don't really agree with the 10 years max jail time either though. People who kill people sometimes serve less time than that sometimes.

    I suppose, with how soft our court systems are, most people would just get a slap on the wrists anyway.
    Exactly, 10 years is the maximum. Most likely first time offenders will get a slap on the wrist. Were as repeat offenders may get harder sentences but so they should if they are repeat offenders.

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    Yep, something would have to be very wrong if you had two dogs in a row that had killed someone.

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    QLD has very harsh penalties as it stands. I do think culpability is good, I would also like to see people who let dogs wander the streets culpable for any critical or fatal car accidents they may cause.

    Just wish they would leave all the breed stuff out of it.
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    I don't agree that dog behavior should result in criminal charges against an owner.. The way to go about it is to encourage owners to register their dogs, offering more incentives like discounted puppy / dog training programs, more education for people buying a dog / puppy.

    Perhaps a fine or community service would be more appropriate.

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    I don't agree that dog behavior should result in criminal charges against an owner..
    Why not. I see lots of perfectly nice puppies completely ruined by owners who deliberately or neglectfully train their dogs to be savage towards other dogs and humans. Some of these owners cheer when their dogs get aggressive. Lots of "My dog is boss, or my dog wouldn't start a fight but sure will finish it", or "Fi Fi never growled at anyone before" - when the owner was never close enough to notice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nibbler View Post
    I don't agree that dog behavior should result in criminal charges against an owner.. The way to go about it is to encourage owners to register their dogs, offering more incentives like discounted puppy / dog training programs, more education for people buying a dog / puppy.

    Perhaps a fine or community service would be more appropriate.
    Sorry but if your dog maims or kills someone because you are irresponsible or couldn't care enough to properly train, socialise and contain your dog then hell yes you should go to jail. A fine or some community service does not cut it. You wouldn't suggest a fine or community service for someone who drives dangerous and seriously injures or kills someone, this is no different.

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    I can see you are both focused on the outcome (punishments)... what are your feelings towards education and prevention methods?

    Compare what I am suggesting to a medical model.

    Is it easier, cheaper or better to wait until an overweight individual has a heart attack? or would it be a much more effective to prevent it in the first instance, encourage healthy eating, encourage exercise throughout the community?

    What I am saying is that when you register your dog or puppy you could be offered advice on training (or offered a discount at selected schools), a pamphlet with information about the importance of training and socialisation, and include information about what penalties will be enforced against you if your dog attacks someone. Simple, cost effective and is more likely to have an impact on the number of dog attacks.

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