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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Can I say huh again? A few people have liked your post, perhaps one of them can explain the comment 'cause it confuses me. I have no clue what is being said to be frank.
    Bigotry: stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own

    Being redirected at animals instead of reflected back at oneself or directed towards humans (ie the persistent belief that humans are the most supreme of species and therefore cannot be to blame).

    A consistent commitment to misunderstanding dog behavior and instead making it conform to human understanding/belief/motivation etc (anthropomorphism).

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    It would actually be a good humourous response for someone to adapt that document as a standard to identify the kind of irresponsible owner that could turn a dog into a dangerous dog. You could draw up a picture of your typical ignorant, testosterone driven bogan and then write up details about their appearance.

    It would be just as ludicrous as this standard and would make a good point.

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    What breed of dog is bold enough to enter a strangers house and eat a child?

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    Thanks Keira but I do know what anthropormorphism is.... I have made many comments in the past about this on this forum.

    The sentence doesn't make sense and I was confused about what Beau was trying to convey. Thanks for trying to explain it though.

    Beau - I can appreciate the sentiment expressed although the issue for me has nothing to do with attributing human qualities to dogs. Moreso it is lack of knowledge, understanding and a media lead fear campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    I spoke the truth, they annoy the bejeebus out of me, I am not a very patient person/not the motherly type lol.

    As I said preaching to the choir. Read back through a lot of my posts in this and other threads. I agree whole heartedly.

    I believe that dog bites occur due to irresponsible ownership in most cases which includes not properly confining a dog and lack of proper training and socialisation for the dog as well as often times lack of human interaction and exercise for the dog. I also believe dogs involved in attacks need to have necropys done on them to ascertain if there were any medical issues with the dog and the dogs history/living situations should be thoroughly looked into, so we can really get down to WHY the dog attacked. I believe we should have jail sentences for people whose dogs cause seriously harm or death to a person (pending an investigation into the owner, obviously sometimes accidents happen, mistakes are made)

    Second chances is just too hard, as I said earlier NO ONE is going to be willing to take on a dog which has that level of aggression, a dog who is a serious liability, because you are responsible and liable if that dog attacks again. Proper rehabilitation for a dog like that is almost impossible because the training required would involve a lot of risk for people involved. It is just not plausible to try and rehabilitate a dog that maims or kills a human. Better to save the time and space for good, well behaved, friendly dogs who are sitting in shelters waiting to die. They are the dogs that really need our help.

    I will point one thing out the GR that was involved in a bad attack against his owner earlier this year in Sydney was taken on by Steve from K9 Pro for rehabilitation, so not all dogs are written off.
    I have to disagree with you on the bold point, I'm a huge Cesar Millan fan, he has saved so many red zone aggressive dogs from death and they're now happy and healthy dogs. He's proven it CAN be done, it just takes time, knowledge and a lot of patience.
    I agree that a necropsy should be done on all dogs that seemingly turn for no reason as there could be a medical reason behind it.
    I think owners should be jailed for mistreatment and abuse of their dogs and not allowed to own another dog.

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    New amendments made to act are enforceable as of today . Also the 'standard' they are going to use to id a Pit Bull has been released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookenseth View Post
    I have to disagree with you on the bold point, I'm a huge Cesar Millan fan, he has saved so many red zone aggressive dogs from death and they're now happy and healthy dogs. He's proven it CAN be done, it just takes time, knowledge and a lot of patience.
    I agree that a necropsy should be done on all dogs that seemingly turn for no reason as there could be a medical reason behind it.
    I think owners should be jailed for mistreatment and abuse of their dogs and not allowed to own another dog.
    Cesar Millan is one man, not many people have the same facilities, resources and money that he has. I think all in all we are better off not wasting a huge amount of time and money on dogs who have major issues such as human aggression (severe human aggression) and instead spending it on dogs who are sitting in pounds and shelters waiting to die.

    Yes there should be a lot harsher penalties for humans who mistreat dogs and allow them to become dangerous to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    New amendments made to act are enforceable as of today . Also the 'standard' they are going to use to id a Pit Bull has been released.
    where?

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    Cesar Millan has the time and the resources to put time and the effort in to making these dogs work.
    I don't think that the Joe Average would be able to do what this great bloke can do.
    And this is with all breeds not one particular breed.
    I don't see why we should waste the money on a dog that is a known biter it as said in a post or two above put the money towards a dog that shows it can have a good future, and isn't going to harm the general public.

    He totally understand what a dog is, way better than most people. He has dedicated his life towards dogs and this has shown to be true in the shows he does.
    I know for a fact I would not have the success as he does even in a year.

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    I do take on Aggressive dogs, but only one at the time. And I am breed specific. because i think the Breeds I have chosen are retrainable. I have done quite a few now and I have helped and am still helping people with problem dogs. But I also know when I need to ask for help and go to people who have even greater experience than I do.
    Will I do it again, yes........I adored my Zacky and thoroughly love owning my Annabelle. She was extremely people and dog aggressive and did have a bite history. But I have worked and worked with her and i have put her in many situations and went to many workshops with her.......I have learned so much and have had the opportunity of meeting many good Trainers because of her. It is amazing how Trainers are willing to spend the time with you and teach you more if you show interest and determination. If I had not worked with Aggressive dogs, I would not know what I know now.

    Each case should be taken individually, you cannot set rulings.

    But anyway, my lonely little voice will have no effect on the final outcome of all of this
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