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    Quote Originally Posted by Beau View Post
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    Councils call for more officers to hunt dangerous pit bulls

    COUNCILS want the State Government to give them enough officers to comb the suburbs looking for pit bulls and other dangerous dogs.

    The Municipal Association of Victoria has asked the Coalition for resources to respond to a wave of calls to the dangerous dog hotline as well as teams of officers to make street by street searches in the suburbs most likely to have unregistered pit bulls.


    The Dob in a Dangerous Dog hotline received 122 calls yesterday, with 37 reports of suspect dogs passed to councils for follow-up action.

    Two weeks after the horrifying death of Ayen Chol, four, in St Albans, Parliament yesterday began introducing guidelines to officially label pit bulls and end an amnesty on September 30 so any unregistered restricted-breed dogs can be destroyed.

    The Government also said it would pass legislation in a fortnight to introduce a new crime to jail the owners of dogs who attack people similar to culpable driving, which carries a sentence up to 20 years.

    The Government and MAV will monitor calls to the dangerous dog hotline before deciding how many staff it will promise councils.

    MAV chief executive Rob Spence also called for a team of dedicated officers to patrol areas such as Brimbank, Dandenong, and suburbs in outer Melbourne where there are high concentrations of restricted breed dogs.

    "The councils are concerned about the workload but understand that we have to do it and are really distraught about what happened to that child," he said.

    The RSPCA reported it had been contacted by dozens of frightened pet owners fearing their dogs will be mistakenly killed.

    "People are frightened that their dogs will be mistaken for a pit bull or for a dangerous breed when in fact they're not," RSPCA Victoria chief executive Maria Mercurio said.

    "It's a very dangerous way to be going about this. Even so-called experts have difficulty determining exact breeds, particularly with cross breeds."

    Lort Smith Animal Hospital shelter manager Liz Walker congratulated the government for its "gloves off" approach in dealing with the dangerous dog situation, but said it needed to expand the measures to combat all dangerous dogs and not just those of particular breeds.

    "Beefing up the legislation and forcing people to be more responsible is essential," she said.

    "They need to broaden it, make sure there's very clear perameters and process for determining if its a pitbull or a cross breed."

    Agriculture Minister Peter Walsh said pit bull and pit bull cross owners would not be given a second chance after September 30 to register their dogs. They could notify authorities now or risk having them destroyed.

    "After September 30, when the amnesty finishes, if they have a pit bull type dog that fits the description ... councils will seize that dog and destroy it," he warned.

    "It is not an issue of fining them if they have an illegal restricted breed type dog _ it is a matter that councils will have the power to seize it and destroy it."

    ANYONE wanting to identify a pit bull or other dangerous dog living in their neighbourhood can call 1300 101 080 from 8am to 6pm, seven days a week.
    The bolded bits confirm what I was just saying.

    122 calls in one day that is horrifying. People are disgusting.

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    It's not being over looked, what seems to be over looked is the amount of unrelated breeds or X's registered or not that are of a type and are going to be caught up in the wave of madness of identification.
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    Beau, you really are a sucker for media hype aren't you?

    Funny how you think that the media are getting everything correct with this side of it, but I'll bet you never believe them when they say they describe a dog's breed or degree of viciousness.

    You can keep quoting days old media articles all you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    The bolded bits confirm what I was just saying.

    122 calls in one day that is horrifying. People are disgusting.
    Its a MEDIA ARTICLE beau. Find facts, not media hype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Just thought I'd point out that very important point that keeps being overlooked.
    But it hasn't been overlooked, I have mentioned it several times in my posts. Register your dogs now before September 30th.

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    no I am not a sucker for medias hype I was there at the beginning 2001, then 2005 then finally got out 08.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne View Post
    Just thought I'd point out that very important point that keeps being overlooked.
    That works out fine if you have a pittbull. Not fine if you have a dog that may be mistaken for a pittbull. They are forcing people to declare dogs that are not pittbulls, pittbulls!

    So you have a choice, declare your dog as a pittbull and then it has to abide by all the rules set out for pittbulls ie muzzles, dog runs etc Or take a risk of someone "Dobbing in a dog" and facing what the council dishes out in regards to fines, charges, dog being siezed, PTS.

    Wether the media have hyped it up and forums Hype it up the reality is that is is happening and people are and should worry about what could happen.
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    I think it's incredibly disgusting and blind to pass such a horrible legislation in Australia! These dogs are family dogs, I've always had a Staffy or Amstaff, I currently have a female Amstaff (luckily with papers) and it sickens me that our stupid government can try to exterminate an entire breed and for what!? NOTHING! It will not change a damn thing about dog attacks they will still happen because there are still idiots out there who breed dogs for a little extra cash and don't care about who the dog goes to and what kind of life it might be subjected to. I want to know how the hell did that little girl get killed by another family's dog? Why wasn't someone there to protect her and control the dog? What kind of life did the dog have before it attacked? When a human murders somebody they are given a chance at rehabilitation, but when it's a dog it's PTS. Why is my life more valuable than my dog's?
    I hate this country. Passing this crap is like saying that all black men rape white women so we should castrate ALL black men. This will not solve the problem Breed Specific Legislation DOES NOT WORK dog owners need to be educated in controlling powerful breeds.

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    I know of one dog that the owner said is a cross Pit bull.
    Now he is a big fella and does bouncing at a club here locally.
    So I would dare say he might have a few grudges on him.
    And with this law if it is as I have seen here dob in a dog.
    I think he may be in trouble.
    I am unsure if it is registered. The only thing I know this dog hates are utes.
    As when I park my ute in our back yard the dog comes belting up to the fence wild as.
    But the wife has walked the dog past an not a whimper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog_Lover View Post
    That works out fine if you have a pittbull. Not fine if you have a dog that may be mistaken for a pittbull. They are forcing people to declare dogs that are not pittbulls, pittbulls!

    So you have a choice, declare your dog as a pittbull and then it has to abide by all the rules set out for pittbulls ie muzzles, dog runs etc Or take a risk of someone "Dobbing in a dog" and facing what the council dishes out in regards to fines, charges, dog being siezed, PTS.

    Wether the media have hyped it up and forums Hype it up the reality is that is is happening and people are and should worry about what could happen.
    Exactly BL. Pitbulls and dogs who look like Pitbulls who are registered as Pitbulls are safe.

    But if you have a dog who you were told and believe and have registered as say a Staffy X, or an Amstaff X or any Bullbreed X they are in danger because Vic Govt is doing up another "checklist" type thing for their Rangers to use to visually identify "pitbulls" and if your registered Staffy X meets their visual requirements they can then declare your dog a Pitbull and confiscate it because it was not registered as a Pitbull.

    As BL said some people will be forced to change their registration to Pitbull even if they truly believe (and it is more than likely) that their dog is not a Pitbull just to make sure their dog is not taken. That means these people will have to spend thousands of dollars building runs and then make sure they abide by the restricted dog legislation.

    Lots of innocent dogs will die because of this legislation. Lots of dob in's will result in dead dogs.

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