Page 2 of 28 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 279

Thread: Victoria is Completly ****ed Up!

  1. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    Southern NSW
    Posts
    3,785

    Default

    I think I am glad that my dogs are black and fluffy........
    Pets are forever

  2. #12

    Default

    I will wait to see just how all this pans out.
    though I do know that at this minute my dogs neck isn't on the chopping block.
    I don't know what I would do if it was him under threat. So I can't make a remark on this as it can only be done by those who are affected.
    Though I know I will watch this unfold.

    But just a side question, whats wrong with AFL Reyzor ?

  3. #13

    Default

    My advice to anyone in Vic with a Pitbull type dog or a dog who could easily be mistaken for a pitbull ...Move to the ACT or NT your safe there. Otherwise please make sure you register your dog before September 29th so your dog has amnesty, if you register before then your dog will be safe, if you don't the council has rights to enter your property, declare your dog a PB and seize your dog (then PTS) and if you have neighbours you don't get along with or who are afraid of PBs then you are likely to get dobbed in.

    To anyone in the council areas in NSW (CAMPBELLTOWN and Wollondilly) who are saying if you hand in your PBs before 30 September you won't get charged with anything. DO NOT GIVE YOUR DOG TO THE COUNCIL. NSW Companion Animals Act has a due process that the councils have to follow before your dog can be declared a PB, do not hand your dog in because council are making threats, they cannot follow through on the threats unless legislation in NSW is changed. At this stage if they suspect your dog is a PB then they have to issue you with a NOI and then your dog needs to be Temp Tested and if your dog passes they are safe. Do not let them bully you into letting your dog go!

  4. #14

    Default

    Overclockers Australia Forums - View Single Post - VIC to destroy unreg'd pitbull "lookalikes" from Sept 30 2011

    Vic has had a pill in its shrill for a while, just one example of blind pitbull fever, another one was a douge X that the owner waged a war in court and won to get back a couple years ago for the same mis identification, that dog was also registered.
    If you find yourself going through hell; Don't stay. Just keep on going.
    Beau.

  5. #15
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    2,561

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    My advice to anyone in Vic with a Pitbull type dog or a dog who could easily be mistaken for a pitbull ...Move to the ACT or NT your safe there. Otherwise please make sure you register your dog before September 29th so your dog has amnesty, if you register before then your dog will be safe, if you don't the council has rights to enter your property, declare your dog a PB and seize your dog (then PTS) and if you have neighbours you don't get along with or who are afraid of PBs then you are likely to get dobbed in.
    To anyone in the council areas in NSW (CAMPBELLTOWN and Wollondilly) who are saying if you hand in your PBs before 30 September you won't get charged with anything. DO NOT GIVE YOUR DOG TO THE COUNCIL. NSW Companion Animals Act has a due process that the councils have to follow before your dog can be declared a PB, do not hand your dog in because council are making threats, they cannot follow through on the threats unless legislation in NSW is changed. At this stage if they suspect your dog is a PB then they have to issue you with a NOI and then your dog needs to be Temp Tested and if your dog passes they are safe. Do not let them bully you into letting your dog go!
    Just thought I'd highlight this (re bolded bit).
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
    An optimist sees the glass as half full;
    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

  6. #16
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    melbourne australia
    Posts
    3,082

    Default Dangerous Dogs Unite against VIC legislation. Peaceful demo?

    Responsible dog owners have nothing to fear.

    If your dog is socialised and friendly, and safely contained as all dogs must be, regardless of the breed, no worries are there?

    If your dog is allowed to wander the streets whilst you are at work during the day, it will be removed and destroyed. er, so what's new? Do you really think this does not happen?

    If your dog can escape your yard, why have you not fixed this?

    If your dog is likely to jump up and harrass strangers, why have you not fixed this?

    I have owned rotties. I always felt a sense of obligation to the breed, to show the world my friendly dogs. To reverse the myths attributed to this breed.

    Come on pitt lovers, get your dogs out, have them be embassadors for this wonderful breed.

    Recently, in uk, 'up north', there were riots. looting etc. Northern people got together and organised a massive clear up of the damage to the community. Organised on social media websites, they met up with brooms, bins, litter bags, and cleaned up the mess the looters made. Why?
    They wanted the world not to believe the media hype, that they are not thugs and rioters and looters, this was a small fraction of socieity, not the entire social community. The news was played, showing the rest of the world, hey look, we are a great community.

    Maybe having a dangerous dogs public relations day would be a positive move to take? Ive met some wonderful pits. They'd be great for this purpose!

  7. #17

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Responsible dog owners have nothing to fear.

    If your dog is socialised and friendly, and safely contained as all dogs must be, regardless of the breed, no worries are there?

    If your dog is allowed to wander the streets whilst you are at work during the day, it will be removed and destroyed. er, so what's new? Do you really think this does not happen?

    If your dog can escape your yard, why have you not fixed this?

    If your dog is likely to jump up and harrass strangers, why have you not fixed this?

    I have owned rotties. I always felt a sense of obligation to the breed, to show the world my friendly dogs. To reverse the myths attributed to this breed.

    Come on pitt lovers, get your dogs out, have them be embassadors for this wonderful breed.

    Recently, in uk, 'up north', there were riots. looting etc. Northern people got together and organised a massive clear up of the damage to the community. Organised on social media websites, they met up with brooms, bins, litter bags, and cleaned up the mess the looters made. Why?
    They wanted the world not to believe the media hype, that they are not thugs and rioters and looters, this was a small fraction of socieity, not the entire social community. The news was played, showing the rest of the world, hey look, we are a great community.

    Maybe having a dangerous dogs public relations day would be a positive move to take? Ive met some wonderful pits. They'd be great for this purpose!
    Um no it won't matter if you keep your dog well contained and well trained Bernie. If your dog looks like a PB or what people think looks like a PB and you have a disgruntled neighbour who doesn't like you or doesn't like dogs or PBs in general or even a disgruntled ex partner then all it takes is for that Neighbour or Ex to call the "Dob in a Dog" hotline and the Council Rangers HAVE THE RIGHT to enter your property, look at your dog, make a visual inspection and declare your dog a Pitbull, EVEN if your dog is registered as a Staffy X, they then seize and destroy your dog. So NO your dog does not have to be wandering to streets or bad mannered to be picked up and PTS.

    At this stage the only way for dogs who look like PBs or crosses of to be safe is to be registered as PB or cross of. Or to just get the hell out of dodge and move to a State with better or no laws.

    Sorry but most PB owners are not going to take their dogs out in public right now, it is too dangerous and in most States of Australia PB's have to be muzzled in public, doesn't exactly make for a "friendly" image even though the dog is probably super friendly.

  8. #18
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    2,561

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Responsible dog owners have nothing to fear.

    If your dog is socialised and friendly, and safely contained as all dogs must be, regardless of the breed, no worries are there?

    If your dog is allowed to wander the streets whilst you are at work during the day, it will be removed and destroyed. er, so what's new? Do you really think this does not happen?

    If your dog can escape your yard, why have you not fixed this?

    If your dog is likely to jump up and harrass strangers, why have you not fixed this?

    I have owned rotties. I always felt a sense of obligation to the breed, to show the world my friendly dogs. To reverse the myths attributed to this breed.

    Come on pitt lovers, get your dogs out, have them be embassadors for this wonderful breed.

    Recently, in uk, 'up north', there were riots. looting etc. Northern people got together and organised a massive clear up of the damage to the community. Organised on social media websites, they met up with brooms, bins, litter bags, and cleaned up the mess the looters made. Why?
    They wanted the world not to believe the media hype, that they are not thugs and rioters and looters, this was a small fraction of socieity, not the entire social community. The news was played, showing the rest of the world, hey look, we are a great community.

    Maybe having a dangerous dogs public relations day would be a positive move to take? Ive met some wonderful pits. They'd be great for this purpose!
    Hmm, I saw the results of this a few years back at a rally against BSL. Two dogs ended up in a fight because of the stupidity of the owners.

    It WASN'T a good look for the media that had been invited or for the general public to see.
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
    An optimist sees the glass as half full;
    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

  9. #19
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    2,561

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Keira & Phoenix View Post
    Um no it won't matter if you keep your dog well contained and well trained Bernie. If your dog looks like a PB or what people think looks like a PB and you have a disgruntled neighbour who doesn't like you or doesn't like dogs or PBs in general or even a disgruntled ex partner then all it takes is for that Neighbour or Ex to call the "Dob in a Dog" hotline and the Council Rangers HAVE THE RIGHT to enter your property, look at your dog, make a visual inspection and declare your dog a Pitbull, EVEN if your dog is registered as a Staffy X, they then seize and destroy your dog. So NO your dog does not have to be wandering to streets or bad mannered to be picked up and PTS. Dogs who look like PBs or crosses of at this stage the only way for them to be safe is to be registered as PB or cross of. Or to just get the hell out of dodge and move to a State with better or no laws.

    Sorry but most PB owners are not going to take their dogs out in public right now, it is too dangerous and in most States of Australia PB's have to be muzzled in public, doesn't exactly make for a "friendly" image even though the dog is probably super friendly.
    Re bolded bit - No they can't.

    You are effectively saying that you are not allowed to own a Pb which is not true! If your dog is registered, they can NOT remove it providing you are abiding by the law.

    Seriously, the incorrect information that gets bandied about drives me insane.
    A pessimist sees the glass as half empty;
    An optimist sees the glass as half full;
    A realist just finishes the damn thing and refills it.

  10. #20

    Default

    Oh I also wanted to post to ask everyone to write a letter or email to their local members voicing your concern with the legislation being implemented in Victoria, the dob in a dog hotline and the fact that BSL does not work. This is what I wrote to my local member, feel free to copy (most of it I copied from others letters and pasted together) or use as a basis and add your own arguments.
    Dear Paul,


    I am writing to you as I am very concerned about legislation being introduced in Victoria regarding dangerous dogs, and that similar legislation may make its way to Queensland.


    The new Victorian legislation seeks to make 'pit bull' cross breeds classified as dangerous dogs too, and encourages members of the public to report any dogs they suspect are a pit bull.

    I find this heinous as pit bulls cannot be identified by physical characteristics, or even DNA, and in reality the legislation is targeting any 'bully breed' like dog. As Staffordshire terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers and mongrels of, are popular breeds, it is likely that many innocent pets will be condemned with these legislation changes and in the process innocent families and responsible dog owners will lose their loved family pets.

    My other concern is the “Dob in a Dog” hotline. I feel this Hotline provides too much opportunity for potential abuse by estranged partners and annoyed neighbours to seek revenge for matters unrelated to pets.


    It is unnerving that the government is so willing to spend colossal money on this project, even implementing a hotline, when there is no scientific basis to this process. By this I mean: In no country where there has been a pitbull ban has there also been a decrease in dog bites.

    In a perfect world, these resources would be spent on:

    * Increasing the number of ranger-hours in all councils, so they can efficiently enforce legislation that is currently specified in Animal Management (Cats and Dogs) Act 2008.

    * Increasing educational resources to dog owners, parents, and children, to encourage safe practices by all facets of the dog bite issue.

    * Introducing legislation that makes owners responsible for their dog's behaviour. This would allow owners of dogs that bite to be prosecuted for offences, including manslaughter.

    For your interest, I am a 'dog enthusiast' with 2 dogs of my own. I am also involved in dog rescue. I have previously volunteered for AWL Qld and the RSPCA and I now privately rescue and rehome dogs. I am also very involved with a dog training organisation in my area, I call several Behavioural Dog Trainers close friends. Dogs are very much my hobby, and I have spent many hours researching all aspects of dogs - include breed bans and their associated problems.


    As a concerned resident, I was hoping that you may direct me to the best place in which I can make my arguments against any changes in the Animal Management (Cats and Dogs) Act 2008. I am very unsettled about these developments in Victoria and how it may impact on pet ownership in Queensland.

    I welcome your email or phone call XXXX XXX XXX.


    Kind regards,

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •