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    Hi all,

    I contact the Brisbane city council to find out how they ID pitbulls and this is the response I got:

    "The template documents that you have requested were developed over a period of time by the 'South East Qld Regional Animal Management Group' (SEQRAMG ) for use by local governments. The templates are quite complex and may only be used by a local government officer trained in their use to identify a dog suspected of being a prohibited breed. As the templates can be used as evidence in a court proceeding, access to the templates by a non Local Government person or organisation must be approved by the SEQRAMG.

    Due to the complexity of the templates, the identification process and the sensitive nature of enforcement by Council of the restricted breed legislation , I am unable to comply with your request for a copy of the templates."


    Interesting how a couple of council workers have developed an breed identification template when the world's experts couldn't do it. Maybe that's why they won't share.

    Anyway, I was lucky enough to stumble on the following (it took ages)
    http://www.dafrevlogancc.bigpondhosting.com/ A copy of the 22 point ID template is in the council witnesses documents.

    A gutsy owner in QLD took on the Logan city council, he was successful & posted all of the court documents (bless him!). No matter the breed of your dog you should really read these documents - it just takes one jerk council worker and your dog can be taken away. Its scary to read the council witnesses "logic".

    As far as I'm aware South East Queesland councils still used this template. Anyone know what the other states with BSL use?

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    this has been discredited in court and not worth the paper they use to place ticks on.
    in vic and now soon to be nsw it goes on the individual rangers perception of your dog.
    a dangerous,dangerous power.

    but never ever forget that all councils have a due process to follow.read up on rights and laws until you can sprout them like your kids names.
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    Choppacop that is very scary... I wonder what 'training' they get and 'methods' for 'identifiction' they use.



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    it is indeed very scarey random,especially when they do not get any training in breed id at all.
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    That is bloody ridiculous. That could match any number of breeds! And any crossbreed with any of those breeds in them. Its the stupidest thing I have ever read in my life. Jebus could the government be any sillier.

    Glad Mr Da Fre won his case!

    <Sigh>

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    its is ridiculous! when they were trying to discredit it they took a chihuahua and did the test on him. came back that apparently the little chi was a pitbull according to that test ..... hmmmm
    "In order to really enjoy a dog, one doesn't merely try to train him to be semihuman. The point of it is to open oneself to the possibility of becoming partly a dog." - Edward Hoagland

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    this is defunct and no longer useable since 2009 .

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