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    Exactly. And owners that can read their dog, as well as taking signs from other dogs, provide lees injury to people and animals alike.

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    But if it cuts down the number of dangerous animals, abusive owners, and empties shelters.... Isn't it worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mdm View Post
    But if it cuts down the number of dangerous animals, abusive owners, and empties shelters.... Isn't it worth it?
    The real problem is, it really won't do much. The kind of people doing stupid things are also the kind of people that won't stop just because there's a law against it.

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    i can feel my feathers starting to get ruffled now
    before i open my mouth.... *dusts of hands and throws them in air and walks away*

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    Can you not see my point? Small minded people have owned the world too too too long

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    Oh I well and truly see your point, and agree with it, but just don't see how it could be reliably enforced

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    i see the point, but there is such a thing as going overboard.
    there was a post in restricted area i was commenting in as well.

    Thingz - you can't really enforce much of anything.
    only way to change anything is educating people better in a way to help them understand.
    making law's doesn't change anything, a law is like a parent that say's don't do that, generally no one listens.
    the concept of freedom is a lie in reality given there are laws telling people not to.
    but well no one can be truly free and there has to be some safeguards to protect people from each other without taking away the illusion of freedom.
    If you start forcing people to live a certain way. well all hell would break loose.

    Mdm - As far as small minded people owning the world, they don't and its obvious, i would say more but i'm not wanting to get in trouble.
    i could go on for hours explaining things pointing out the good and bad and why.
    but not in that kind of mood at moment. busy working on my science idea's.

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    I did think a license would be a good idea but then it got me thinking ..... Sooner or later the powers that be would make it darn near bloody impossible for people to own dogs such as Pitty's, Rotty's, Doberman's or any other breed that makes for a good media hype up. The breeds would soon be gone or only owned by either so called 'expert handlers' or dodgy underground crims. And that wouldn't be fair on 'Joe average' who has a love for these types of dogs. If they had a foolproof license scheme then great but I think its impossible to do so.


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    i can't tell if jack is being serious or sarcastic...
    tho last time i checked rspca only gave ppl 2 weeks to claim and if dont didnt pass.. green dream..

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    Better yet, why don't we all just bow to the inevitable now and say licences to own any dog. To breed, a special licence! To obtain that, approved premises, tertiary level education, say a 2yr course on genetics, welfare, medicine and husbandry. Premises checked yearly to see they're up to standard and documentation for chips vaccs etc for pups to be provided from an approved seller before licence is granted.

    Sellers could be responsible for education and training classes to be undertaken as part of the licencing system and any dogs deemed unsuitable or unwanted.
    That would solve any problems. Oh, Wait....That would mean we will only have commercial breeders left and dog ownership would be heavily regulated. Like dangerous chemicals. Everyone will feel very reassured that dogs are being handled sensibly and safely by their licenced expert handlers and the public can rest assured the dogs are safe to be out in public . Little tommy can run and jump on the doggy, 'cos hes from an approved seller to an approved and licenced handler.Its all good.

    So much for Mans Best Friend.

    Sorry , but suggestions like this only compound the problems we have with out tackling the issues at the bottom of them. Things are going to pot for dog ownership and as long as people take the attitude restricting people from owning/breeding is the way to go, you are going to build on the NEED to KEEP restricting.

    We need to recognize dog ownership and breeding is a whole community interest and work on any problems as a whole community, able to educate and include ALL dog owners or breeders AS a community with a common responsibility. Like parenthood, familiar, understood and with the open scrutiny and advise of peers .
    We already have laws that could takle most of the problem owners.
    We will NEVER stop all irresponsible people from having dogs. Making it harder on those who do take their responsibilities seriously only pushes dog ownership that bit further away. It further issolates dog ownership to some thing unfamiliar from every day life and understanding. Problems will increase, not decrease so that we will continue to legislate dogs out of exsistence.
    Last edited by Strange fruit; 08-17-2014 at 10:37 AM.

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